WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:14.578 align:middle line:90% 00:00:14.578 --> 00:00:15.870 align:middle line:90% REBECCA TRAWICK: Hi, everybody. 00:00:15.870 --> 00:00:18.530 align:middle line:84% Thank you for joining us today's program presented 00:00:18.530 --> 00:00:20.840 align:middle line:84% as part of the Wignall Museum's Home Edition, 00:00:20.840 --> 00:00:23.760 align:middle line:84% a series of curated artist talks, workshops, 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:27.170 align:middle line:84% and discussions featuring artists and cultural workers. 00:00:27.170 --> 00:00:28.400 align:middle line:90% My name is Rebecca Trawick. 00:00:28.400 --> 00:00:31.470 align:middle line:84% I'm the director and curator of the Wignall Museum. 00:00:31.470 --> 00:00:33.320 align:middle line:84% The Wignall Museum is a teaching museum, 00:00:33.320 --> 00:00:36.740 align:middle line:84% an interdisciplinary art space that introduces 性视界 00:00:36.740 --> 00:00:39.830 align:middle line:84% students, faculty, staff, and community members 00:00:39.830 --> 00:00:43.040 align:middle line:84% to innovative contemporary art objects and ideas. 00:00:43.040 --> 00:00:46.490 align:middle line:84% By fostering critical thinking, visual literacy, discourse, 00:00:46.490 --> 00:00:49.010 align:middle line:84% and empathy, the museum seeks to enhance 00:00:49.010 --> 00:00:52.620 align:middle line:84% the intellectual and cultural life of our community. 00:00:52.620 --> 00:00:55.700 align:middle line:84% We want to take a moment to recognize that we are situated 00:00:55.700 --> 00:00:59.090 align:middle line:84% on the Rancho Cucamonga campus of 性视界, which 00:00:59.090 --> 00:01:02.540 align:middle line:84% resides on the traditional and unceded lands of the Tongva 00:01:02.540 --> 00:01:03.560 align:middle line:90% people. 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:06.380 align:middle line:84% We offer our respect to the elders, both past, present, 00:01:06.380 --> 00:01:08.810 align:middle line:90% and future. 00:01:08.810 --> 00:01:09.620 align:middle line:90% And hello. 00:01:09.620 --> 00:01:11.460 align:middle line:90% My name is Roman Stollenwerk. 00:01:11.460 --> 00:01:13.460 align:middle line:84% I'm the assistant curator at the Wignall 00:01:13.460 --> 00:01:15.410 align:middle line:90% Museum of Contemporary Art. 00:01:15.410 --> 00:01:23.420 align:middle line:84% Please visit our website www.chaffey.edu/wignall. 00:01:23.420 --> 00:01:26.630 align:middle line:84% Please write your questions for the presenter 00:01:26.630 --> 00:01:28.190 align:middle line:90% using the chat function. 00:01:28.190 --> 00:01:29.690 align:middle line:84% We'll be reviewing the chat function 00:01:29.690 --> 00:01:32.570 align:middle line:84% throughout the presentation, and at the end, 00:01:32.570 --> 00:01:34.990 align:middle line:84% we'll answer the questions as time allows. 00:01:34.990 --> 00:01:35.490 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:01:35.490 --> 00:01:37.575 align:middle line:90% 00:01:37.575 --> 00:01:38.700 align:middle line:90% ANDREW HADLE: Hi, everyone. 00:01:38.700 --> 00:01:39.640 align:middle line:90% My name is Andy Hadle. 00:01:39.640 --> 00:01:41.725 align:middle line:84% I'm the preparator at the museum. 00:01:41.725 --> 00:01:44.560 align:middle line:84% And alongside Rebecca and Roman today, I'm 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:46.460 align:middle line:84% going to be helping with the presentation. 00:01:46.460 --> 00:01:51.610 align:middle line:84% So just a real quick breakdown of the program's events-- 00:01:51.610 --> 00:01:53.680 align:middle line:84% in a moment, Rebecca Ustrell is going 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:57.010 align:middle line:84% to present for about 30 minutes, and then with the remaining 00:01:57.010 --> 00:02:03.052 align:middle line:84% time we'll use that available time for question and answer. 00:02:03.052 --> 00:02:04.010 align:middle line:90% REBECCA TRAWICK: Great. 00:02:04.010 --> 00:02:06.130 align:middle line:84% So I'll start by introducing Rebecca, 00:02:06.130 --> 00:02:08.130 align:middle line:90% and then she'll take it away. 00:02:08.130 --> 00:02:10.509 align:middle line:84% So Rebecca Ustrell is the founder and editor 00:02:10.509 --> 00:02:12.610 align:middle line:90% in chief of Curious Publishing. 00:02:12.610 --> 00:02:14.680 align:middle line:84% Curious Publishing was established to promote 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:17.620 align:middle line:84% and nurture the underrepresented and under-serviced talents 00:02:17.620 --> 00:02:19.180 align:middle line:90% of the Inland Empire-- 00:02:19.180 --> 00:02:22.390 align:middle line:84% Los Angeles and greater Southern California. 00:02:22.390 --> 00:02:24.910 align:middle line:84% Through her experience in coordinating the Claremont Art 00:02:24.910 --> 00:02:28.840 align:middle line:84% Walk Pop-up Gallery from 2016 to 2018, 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:30.880 align:middle line:84% she decided to highlight the many talents 00:02:30.880 --> 00:02:33.860 align:middle line:84% in her first indie publication, Curious Magazine, 00:02:33.860 --> 00:02:36.280 align:middle line:90% in September 2018. 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:39.310 align:middle line:84% Since then, Curious has published a new edition 00:02:39.310 --> 00:02:42.610 align:middle line:84% of Curious every quarter, with a new theme each issue, 00:02:42.610 --> 00:02:46.480 align:middle line:84% focusing on top of topics of social justice, aesthetics, 00:02:46.480 --> 00:02:47.770 align:middle line:90% and beyond. 00:02:47.770 --> 00:02:50.530 align:middle line:84% In addition to Curious Magazine, Curious Publishing 00:02:50.530 --> 00:02:54.280 align:middle line:84% also publishes a biannual lifestyle and cultural journal, 00:02:54.280 --> 00:02:56.290 align:middle line:90% entitled Abyme. 00:02:56.290 --> 00:02:59.470 align:middle line:84% Curious also acts as a consultant and publisher 00:02:59.470 --> 00:03:01.390 align:middle line:84% for independent artist publications 00:03:01.390 --> 00:03:04.410 align:middle line:84% for artists throughout Southern California. 00:03:04.410 --> 00:03:07.000 align:middle line:84% Ustrell's movement in the arts extends 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:09.820 align:middle line:84% through several collaborations in the Inland Empire. 00:03:09.820 --> 00:03:11.830 align:middle line:84% She sits on the board of The Artlands, 00:03:11.830 --> 00:03:14.800 align:middle line:84% as well as serves as volunteer special events 00:03:14.800 --> 00:03:16.840 align:middle line:90% coordinator for The Arts Area. 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:19.270 align:middle line:84% These projects are all in addition to her solo career 00:03:19.270 --> 00:03:22.120 align:middle line:84% as a visual artist and creative writer. 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:25.010 align:middle line:84% It is our honor to welcome Rebecca Ustrell today. 00:03:25.010 --> 00:03:29.470 align:middle line:84% So please join me in welcoming her. 00:03:29.470 --> 00:03:32.240 align:middle line:84% REBECCA USTRELL: Thank you so much for that introduction. 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:34.270 align:middle line:84% I'm really happy to be presenting today. 00:03:34.270 --> 00:03:37.780 align:middle line:84% I've been a student at 性视界 off and on for quite a while 00:03:37.780 --> 00:03:38.950 align:middle line:90% now. 00:03:38.950 --> 00:03:42.130 align:middle line:84% I have been living on my own since after high school, 00:03:42.130 --> 00:03:45.220 align:middle line:84% and been building my career in publishing, 00:03:45.220 --> 00:03:48.760 align:middle line:84% as an independent artist, and still working towards a degree. 00:03:48.760 --> 00:03:52.570 align:middle line:84% So it feels really good to be presenting 00:03:52.570 --> 00:03:57.650 align:middle line:84% to my peers, and just all-around interested folks 00:03:57.650 --> 00:03:58.425 align:middle line:90% for the company. 00:03:58.425 --> 00:04:00.050 align:middle line:84% So I'm excited to present to you today. 00:04:00.050 --> 00:04:02.990 align:middle line:90% 00:04:02.990 --> 00:04:06.380 align:middle line:84% Whenever you want to start the presentation, Roman, thank you. 00:04:06.380 --> 00:04:10.240 align:middle line:90% 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:14.470 align:middle line:84% OK so over on the right's a self-portrait 00:04:14.470 --> 00:04:17.200 align:middle line:90% that I did a year back. 00:04:17.200 --> 00:04:20.529 align:middle line:84% In addition to being the founder and editor-in-chief of Curious 00:04:20.529 --> 00:04:26.530 align:middle line:84% Publishing, I'm also an illustrator and a short story 00:04:26.530 --> 00:04:29.440 align:middle line:90% and poet writer. 00:04:29.440 --> 00:04:33.580 align:middle line:84% That kind of is what, of course, gave my initial interest 00:04:33.580 --> 00:04:36.070 align:middle line:84% in the arts in general, but also I've 00:04:36.070 --> 00:04:38.950 align:middle line:84% been collecting art publications since as far back 00:04:38.950 --> 00:04:40.810 align:middle line:90% as I can remember. 00:04:40.810 --> 00:04:44.110 align:middle line:84% If you're interested, after the presentation-- 00:04:44.110 --> 00:04:46.960 align:middle line:84% since it will focus mainly on my publishing company-- 00:04:46.960 --> 00:04:50.140 align:middle line:84% you can go to my personal website rebeccaustrell.com 00:04:50.140 --> 00:04:54.640 align:middle line:84% to see some of my solo work and upcoming projects 00:04:54.640 --> 00:04:56.050 align:middle line:90% and updates on there. 00:04:56.050 --> 00:04:56.550 align:middle line:90% Next slide. 00:04:56.550 --> 00:05:00.030 align:middle line:90% 00:05:00.030 --> 00:05:03.120 align:middle line:84% As I said before, and as they introduced me, 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:08.730 align:middle line:84% I have been an art show curator for a few years now. 00:05:08.730 --> 00:05:13.290 align:middle line:84% My background in that started in Claremont 00:05:13.290 --> 00:05:17.610 align:middle line:84% initially with the Claremont Village Marketing Group 00:05:17.610 --> 00:05:20.550 align:middle line:84% doing their pop-up gallery, which happened monthly 00:05:20.550 --> 00:05:21.630 align:middle line:90% on the first Saturday. 00:05:21.630 --> 00:05:24.780 align:middle line:84% So my first experience with meeting 00:05:24.780 --> 00:05:27.780 align:middle line:84% a high volume of artists at once and also representing them 00:05:27.780 --> 00:05:29.910 align:middle line:90% was in that capacity. 00:05:29.910 --> 00:05:35.430 align:middle line:84% After my volunteer period of time was up, 00:05:35.430 --> 00:05:38.880 align:middle line:84% I started volunteering with The Arts Area 00:05:38.880 --> 00:05:42.450 align:middle line:84% and developing their pop-up gallery, which was 00:05:42.450 --> 00:05:44.130 align:middle line:90% quarterly rather than monthly. 00:05:44.130 --> 00:05:47.710 align:middle line:84% So we did that up until COVID, of course, 00:05:47.710 --> 00:05:49.350 align:middle line:84% since that was an in-person event, 00:05:49.350 --> 00:05:51.840 align:middle line:84% and we haven't resumed that quite yet. 00:05:51.840 --> 00:05:55.410 align:middle line:84% And that was just a small part of the greater art walks 00:05:55.410 --> 00:05:59.410 align:middle line:84% that take place in Claremont and Ontario. 00:05:59.410 --> 00:06:02.100 align:middle line:84% So in that role, that's where I initially 00:06:02.100 --> 00:06:05.800 align:middle line:84% met a lot of the artists that I actually still work with today. 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:08.740 align:middle line:84% Prior to that I did have a nonprofit sector 00:06:08.740 --> 00:06:13.060 align:middle line:84% experience in fundraising, and I worked with foster youth 00:06:13.060 --> 00:06:14.740 align:middle line:90% all over the Inland Empire. 00:06:14.740 --> 00:06:18.130 align:middle line:84% And my main job there was cultivating 00:06:18.130 --> 00:06:21.040 align:middle line:84% donors, doing a little bit of grant writing, 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:24.490 align:middle line:84% and also just coordinating little events here and there 00:06:24.490 --> 00:06:25.830 align:middle line:90% for fundraising purposes. 00:06:25.830 --> 00:06:30.910 align:middle line:84% So the non-profit aspect of my company 00:06:30.910 --> 00:06:33.250 align:middle line:84% really stems from me having a good understanding 00:06:33.250 --> 00:06:35.980 align:middle line:90% of how a nonprofit works. 00:06:35.980 --> 00:06:38.860 align:middle line:84% Having a company that is geared more towards community rather 00:06:38.860 --> 00:06:41.170 align:middle line:84% than the bottom-line profit was really important to me, 00:06:41.170 --> 00:06:43.280 align:middle line:84% and always has been in my career experience. 00:06:43.280 --> 00:06:46.510 align:middle line:84% So that's where that experience comes from. 00:06:46.510 --> 00:06:48.650 align:middle line:84% My personal work-- there's actually 00:06:48.650 --> 00:06:50.110 align:middle line:90% a photo over to the right. 00:06:50.110 --> 00:06:54.190 align:middle line:84% It's a promo photo for this tarot deck that I'm working on. 00:06:54.190 --> 00:06:57.010 align:middle line:84% It's called the Social Justice Tarot Deck. 00:06:57.010 --> 00:06:58.660 align:middle line:84% Kind of in the bottom area, you'll 00:06:58.660 --> 00:07:01.540 align:middle line:84% see a couple of illustrations that 00:07:01.540 --> 00:07:05.802 align:middle line:84% are based on the original writer tarot deck, 00:07:05.802 --> 00:07:06.760 align:middle line:90% so that's what that is. 00:07:06.760 --> 00:07:09.760 align:middle line:84% There's more information about that on my website. 00:07:09.760 --> 00:07:13.180 align:middle line:84% And other than that art project that I'm working on, 00:07:13.180 --> 00:07:17.320 align:middle line:84% my artwork does heavily focus on human sexuality and societal 00:07:17.320 --> 00:07:18.400 align:middle line:90% trends. 00:07:18.400 --> 00:07:20.840 align:middle line:84% My major is actually in sociology, 00:07:20.840 --> 00:07:23.890 align:middle line:84% so that's where that kind of ties in with my interest 00:07:23.890 --> 00:07:29.700 align:middle line:84% of trending groups, kind of studying groups 00:07:29.700 --> 00:07:32.310 align:middle line:84% and what their interests are and how that all 00:07:32.310 --> 00:07:34.740 align:middle line:90% affects a society in general. 00:07:34.740 --> 00:07:36.960 align:middle line:84% I'm also a commissioned illustrator. 00:07:36.960 --> 00:07:39.720 align:middle line:84% I have experience in being a private tutor, 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:44.010 align:middle line:84% so I've worked with students in the Claremont community 00:07:44.010 --> 00:07:46.740 align:middle line:84% as a private tutor at their home for drawing. 00:07:46.740 --> 00:07:49.398 align:middle line:84% And of course, my main focus right now 00:07:49.398 --> 00:07:51.690 align:middle line:84% at this point of my career is being the editor-in-chief 00:07:51.690 --> 00:07:53.350 align:middle line:90% of Curious Publishing. 00:07:53.350 --> 00:07:53.930 align:middle line:90% Next slide. 00:07:53.930 --> 00:07:56.520 align:middle line:90% 00:07:56.520 --> 00:08:01.120 align:middle line:84% So Curious Publishing is a non-profit art book publishing 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:06.640 align:middle line:84% company, meaning we have our titles that are called Curious, 00:08:06.640 --> 00:08:09.970 align:middle line:84% but we also publish many other art books from solo artists. 00:08:09.970 --> 00:08:14.420 align:middle line:84% And also we have new titles that roll in year-round. 00:08:14.420 --> 00:08:17.260 align:middle line:84% And we work on those project proposals with the artists 00:08:17.260 --> 00:08:18.280 align:middle line:90% directly. 00:08:18.280 --> 00:08:21.020 align:middle line:84% We're based in Upland, California right now, 00:08:21.020 --> 00:08:24.160 align:middle line:84% but since it is an online company and I do move around, 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:26.110 align:middle line:84% we were previously based in Pomona. 00:08:26.110 --> 00:08:28.150 align:middle line:84% So that's where we grew most of our following, 00:08:28.150 --> 00:08:31.720 align:middle line:84% was out of Pomona, although we do serve the greater Inland 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:36.340 align:middle line:84% Empire first before we branch out into other zones. 00:08:36.340 --> 00:08:39.799 align:middle line:84% We're 100% artist-owned and operated, 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:41.620 align:middle line:90% and there's a website-- 00:08:41.620 --> 00:08:44.090 align:middle line:84% curiouspublishing.org-- for your future reference 00:08:44.090 --> 00:08:48.580 align:middle line:84% to see the goings on of our company. 00:08:48.580 --> 00:08:51.150 align:middle line:90% Here's an introduction. 00:08:51.150 --> 00:08:53.670 align:middle line:84% Of course, I would have loved to have them 00:08:53.670 --> 00:08:56.110 align:middle line:84% here in the room with me to introduce themselves, 00:08:56.110 --> 00:09:00.630 align:middle line:84% but our staff is 100% volunteer based. 00:09:00.630 --> 00:09:06.240 align:middle line:84% And actually, we have a couple of current and former 性视界 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:08.190 align:middle line:84% students that are on our editing staff. 00:09:08.190 --> 00:09:10.680 align:middle line:84% So there's myself, who is currently 00:09:10.680 --> 00:09:14.622 align:middle line:84% taking classes on an off at 性视界, and I act 00:09:14.622 --> 00:09:16.080 align:middle line:84% as the editor-in-chief, which means 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:20.700 align:middle line:84% that I curate the overall themes and make those final decisions 00:09:20.700 --> 00:09:21.690 align:middle line:90% before going to print. 00:09:21.690 --> 00:09:26.430 align:middle line:84% I also act as the designer for a lot of our publications. 00:09:26.430 --> 00:09:29.370 align:middle line:84% Eduardo Galvez, who's currently at Cal State Long Beach-- 00:09:29.370 --> 00:09:33.750 align:middle line:84% he is starting special initiative projects 00:09:33.750 --> 00:09:35.260 align:middle line:90% under our publishing company. 00:09:35.260 --> 00:09:38.568 align:middle line:84% And Nicholas, who I believe is actually on in our meeting 00:09:38.568 --> 00:09:41.110 align:middle line:84% right now-- so thanks, Nick, for attending and watching this. 00:09:41.110 --> 00:09:42.180 align:middle line:90% He's our lead designer. 00:09:42.180 --> 00:09:46.320 align:middle line:84% He designs the little aspects of our publication, 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:51.120 align:middle line:84% like digital illustrations, layout ideas, 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:53.550 align:middle line:90% and all of our merch. 00:09:53.550 --> 00:09:57.720 align:middle line:84% Haley is a freelance artist, and she's our photographer. 00:09:57.720 --> 00:10:00.570 align:middle line:84% Jessica Spindler is a current art history student. 00:10:00.570 --> 00:10:02.890 align:middle line:84% I believe she still is at 性视界-- 00:10:02.890 --> 00:10:05.730 align:middle line:84% I'm not sure about this coming semester. 00:10:05.730 --> 00:10:09.260 align:middle line:84% And then Brianna, who is a friend of Eduardo 00:10:09.260 --> 00:10:10.260 align:middle line:90% at Cal State Long Beach. 00:10:10.260 --> 00:10:11.802 align:middle line:84% She's our brand new assistant editor. 00:10:11.802 --> 00:10:15.090 align:middle line:84% She's our first regularly paid employee, 00:10:15.090 --> 00:10:17.460 align:middle line:84% which is a huge milestone for our company, 00:10:17.460 --> 00:10:19.770 align:middle line:84% since we recently got the following capital 00:10:19.770 --> 00:10:23.700 align:middle line:90% to start paying out our staff. 00:10:23.700 --> 00:10:27.110 align:middle line:84% So our biggest titles would be Curious Magazine-- 00:10:27.110 --> 00:10:28.520 align:middle line:90% that's quarterly. 00:10:28.520 --> 00:10:31.520 align:middle line:84% Today is actually the launch of the women's issue, 00:10:31.520 --> 00:10:33.470 align:middle line:84% so that just got published online. 00:10:33.470 --> 00:10:34.820 align:middle line:90% It's our biggest issue yet. 00:10:34.820 --> 00:10:39.110 align:middle line:84% We actually had, I want to say 116 submissions, which 00:10:39.110 --> 00:10:41.690 align:middle line:90% is about double-- 00:10:41.690 --> 00:10:43.550 align:middle line:84% I want to say almost triple-- a little 00:10:43.550 --> 00:10:46.370 align:middle line:84% over double the amount of submissions we usually get. 00:10:46.370 --> 00:10:49.070 align:middle line:84% So that was extremely exciting for me to see 00:10:49.070 --> 00:10:51.170 align:middle line:90% all of the submissions come in. 00:10:51.170 --> 00:10:53.800 align:middle line:84% And we published our largest volume. 00:10:53.800 --> 00:10:55.700 align:middle line:90% It's a 250 page volume book. 00:10:55.700 --> 00:10:59.570 align:middle line:84% So typically, our books would be around, 00:10:59.570 --> 00:11:01.040 align:middle line:90% I want to say 90 pages-- 00:11:01.040 --> 00:11:02.540 align:middle line:90% 90 to 120 pages. 00:11:02.540 --> 00:11:05.630 align:middle line:90% This is significantly larger. 00:11:05.630 --> 00:11:07.850 align:middle line:84% And yeah, that was really exciting. 00:11:07.850 --> 00:11:11.720 align:middle line:84% So take a look for that release, which is available online 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:14.300 align:middle line:90% right now, and also in print. 00:11:14.300 --> 00:11:16.130 align:middle line:84% That's going to ship out next week. 00:11:16.130 --> 00:11:21.680 align:middle line:84% And Abyme Magazine, that was a title that was actually in 00:11:21.680 --> 00:11:24.980 align:middle line:84% print in Pomona, and I met the person 00:11:24.980 --> 00:11:26.420 align:middle line:90% that started that magazine. 00:11:26.420 --> 00:11:29.900 align:middle line:84% She actually was also a 性视界 student. 00:11:29.900 --> 00:11:32.390 align:middle line:90% And she just stopped-- 00:11:32.390 --> 00:11:34.377 align:middle line:84% simply stopped-- printing the magazine, 00:11:34.377 --> 00:11:36.710 align:middle line:84% and I was really interested in keeping up that lifestyle 00:11:36.710 --> 00:11:37.280 align:middle line:90% magazine. 00:11:37.280 --> 00:11:39.500 align:middle line:84% And I thought it would be a great way of highlighting 00:11:39.500 --> 00:11:42.650 align:middle line:84% things that don't necessarily fit into the themes of Curious. 00:11:42.650 --> 00:11:46.050 align:middle line:84% So Abyme is biannual, and this upcoming issue 00:11:46.050 --> 00:11:47.630 align:middle line:90% is coming out in October. 00:11:47.630 --> 00:11:49.850 align:middle line:84% And our indie art books would be the projects 00:11:49.850 --> 00:11:52.040 align:middle line:84% that we work with independent artists-- 00:11:52.040 --> 00:11:55.100 align:middle line:84% say a photographer or a poet that 00:11:55.100 --> 00:11:56.730 align:middle line:84% wants to print a Chat Book that has 00:11:56.730 --> 00:11:59.460 align:middle line:90% some artistic elements in it. 00:11:59.460 --> 00:12:01.490 align:middle line:84% A lot of people are really into DIY right now 00:12:01.490 --> 00:12:04.160 align:middle line:84% and publish their own our books, but another way that we 00:12:04.160 --> 00:12:07.310 align:middle line:84% help indie artists, if they don't need that layout 00:12:07.310 --> 00:12:10.760 align:middle line:84% assistance, is we front the cost of the printing 00:12:10.760 --> 00:12:13.850 align:middle line:84% and work with our own printers who can give us a lower cost 00:12:13.850 --> 00:12:15.950 align:middle line:84% to get their projects to fruition. 00:12:15.950 --> 00:12:17.828 align:middle line:84% Or they just simply want our help 00:12:17.828 --> 00:12:19.370 align:middle line:84% with getting distribution out there-- 00:12:19.370 --> 00:12:21.190 align:middle line:84% that's also something we specialize in. 00:12:21.190 --> 00:12:24.350 align:middle line:84% The Curious Magazine is where we have 00:12:24.350 --> 00:12:29.780 align:middle line:84% focused a lot on the trends that are going on in society. 00:12:29.780 --> 00:12:32.480 align:middle line:84% Big movements, identity, empowerment, and gender. 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:36.750 align:middle line:84% That's what we focus on for all of our issues. 00:12:36.750 --> 00:12:39.470 align:middle line:84% This was a recent initiative that I thought 00:12:39.470 --> 00:12:41.600 align:middle line:84% was really important, just with the changing 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:46.770 align:middle line:84% climate politically and all the protests. 00:12:46.770 --> 00:12:49.010 align:middle line:84% It just seemed irresponsible to not 00:12:49.010 --> 00:12:54.840 align:middle line:84% focus on something that is really happening out there, 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:57.360 align:middle line:84% something that artists obviously are in touch with, 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:01.610 align:middle line:84% something that I wanted to get artists' perspective 00:13:01.610 --> 00:13:03.460 align:middle line:90% on movements going on. 00:13:03.460 --> 00:13:06.810 align:middle line:84% So that's kind of why we decided to do our Latinx 00:13:06.810 --> 00:13:08.760 align:middle line:90% issue in March. 00:13:08.760 --> 00:13:11.310 align:middle line:84% And then after that, we had our queer issue, 00:13:11.310 --> 00:13:16.200 align:middle line:84% and then this is the women's issue that came out today. 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:21.330 align:middle line:84% And our next issue will be all focused on BIPOC, 00:13:21.330 --> 00:13:23.580 align:middle line:84% so we're really excited about that, too. 00:13:23.580 --> 00:13:27.000 align:middle line:84% Here are some examples of our past covers. 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:30.510 align:middle line:84% We haven't always focused on social justice issues 00:13:30.510 --> 00:13:32.160 align:middle line:90% and identity empowerment. 00:13:32.160 --> 00:13:36.900 align:middle line:84% We do do the occasional aesthetic-based issue-- 00:13:36.900 --> 00:13:41.310 align:middle line:84% the Pink issue was actually something 00:13:41.310 --> 00:13:44.250 align:middle line:84% that we did with our debut issue, which 00:13:44.250 --> 00:13:47.490 align:middle line:84% is we focused on the millennial pink color trend. 00:13:47.490 --> 00:13:50.490 align:middle line:84% So that was our anniversary issue on millennial pink. 00:13:50.490 --> 00:13:52.230 align:middle line:84% Over to the right in the back area 00:13:52.230 --> 00:13:56.760 align:middle line:84% is the Psychedelia cover, so we did all psychedelic themed art. 00:13:56.760 --> 00:13:59.650 align:middle line:84% And then over to the bottom you see the women's edition, 00:13:59.650 --> 00:14:02.340 align:middle line:84% and then over to the right is Latinx, 00:14:02.340 --> 00:14:07.470 align:middle line:84% the cover done by Pavel, who's also a former 性视界 student 00:14:07.470 --> 00:14:11.250 align:middle line:84% and permanent muralist at the 性视界 campus. 00:14:11.250 --> 00:14:13.963 align:middle line:84% So he's a good friend of mine now, thanks to that issue. 00:14:13.963 --> 00:14:15.380 align:middle line:84% I got the chance to meet with him, 00:14:15.380 --> 00:14:20.680 align:middle line:84% and we have our schedule of submissions, 00:14:20.680 --> 00:14:24.750 align:middle line:84% which exists on our website for open submissions year-round 00:14:24.750 --> 00:14:28.400 align:middle line:90% for titles such as these. 00:14:28.400 --> 00:14:33.500 align:middle line:84% So we feature approximately 120 artists per year. 00:14:33.500 --> 00:14:36.350 align:middle line:84% Well we've only been operating for just over two years, 00:14:36.350 --> 00:14:38.170 align:middle line:84% so this figure is going to change. 00:14:38.170 --> 00:14:41.950 align:middle line:84% I believe that it's going to grow exponentially, 00:14:41.950 --> 00:14:44.290 align:middle line:84% just from what we've seen in our submission 00:14:44.290 --> 00:14:47.280 align:middle line:84% rate and our capacity to print, of course. 00:14:47.280 --> 00:14:49.310 align:middle line:84% That's about 30 artists per issue. 00:14:49.310 --> 00:14:52.170 align:middle line:90% 00:14:52.170 --> 00:14:54.360 align:middle line:84% So again submissions are year-round. 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:58.410 align:middle line:84% We take open submissions from anywhere all over the globe, 00:14:58.410 --> 00:15:04.290 align:middle line:84% but we do make sure that the magazine has at least 75% 00:15:04.290 --> 00:15:08.480 align:middle line:84% Inland Empire-based artists, since that is our mission. 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:09.830 align:middle line:90% Here's Abyme magazine. 00:15:09.830 --> 00:15:12.440 align:middle line:84% As I mentioned before, it's our biannual lifestyle, art, 00:15:12.440 --> 00:15:14.180 align:middle line:90% and culture magazine. 00:15:14.180 --> 00:15:16.500 align:middle line:84% This hasn't debuted yet-- this new issue. 00:15:16.500 --> 00:15:19.160 align:middle line:84% We've actually only had one issue in print so far. 00:15:19.160 --> 00:15:24.530 align:middle line:84% It's our newest self-titled magazine. 00:15:24.530 --> 00:15:28.290 align:middle line:84% The cover on this is during the Black Lives Matter protests. 00:15:28.290 --> 00:15:31.340 align:middle line:84% I believe this photo was taken in Los Angeles, 00:15:31.340 --> 00:15:33.710 align:middle line:84% but the photographer Julian Lucas-- 00:15:33.710 --> 00:15:35.570 align:middle line:90% who's based out of Pomona-- 00:15:35.570 --> 00:15:39.230 align:middle line:84% took photos at protests all across the Inland Empire 00:15:39.230 --> 00:15:39.870 align:middle line:90% as well. 00:15:39.870 --> 00:15:43.460 align:middle line:84% So that magazine will feature things such as that. 00:15:43.460 --> 00:15:47.120 align:middle line:84% We do also do one off special interest art books 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:49.550 align:middle line:84% with small groups, and create compilation art books 00:15:49.550 --> 00:15:51.800 align:middle line:90% on various topics. 00:15:51.800 --> 00:15:57.660 align:middle line:84% During quarantine, I decided to do a pandemic issue. 00:15:57.660 --> 00:16:00.860 align:middle line:84% So this is really similar to Curious Magazine, in that it's 00:16:00.860 --> 00:16:03.990 align:middle line:84% a compilation zine focused on a theme, 00:16:03.990 --> 00:16:05.710 align:middle line:90% but it was a little different. 00:16:05.710 --> 00:16:09.470 align:middle line:84% It released between a couple of our Curious Magazines. 00:16:09.470 --> 00:16:11.300 align:middle line:84% And then it was really exciting to work 00:16:11.300 --> 00:16:14.060 align:middle line:84% with 性视界 and the Wignall, working with Rebecca 00:16:14.060 --> 00:16:18.020 align:middle line:84% and getting the Student Invitational edition out there. 00:16:18.020 --> 00:16:20.470 align:middle line:90% It was something that I just-- 00:16:20.470 --> 00:16:23.270 align:middle line:84% it was experimental, because I hadn't done a book 00:16:23.270 --> 00:16:28.280 align:middle line:84% with another organization or big group of artists that weren't 00:16:28.280 --> 00:16:30.060 align:middle line:90% directly connected to me. 00:16:30.060 --> 00:16:32.900 align:middle line:84% But as an active 性视界 student, 00:16:32.900 --> 00:16:34.670 align:middle line:84% I thought it was really important to see 00:16:34.670 --> 00:16:38.600 align:middle line:84% what the perspectives of art have been over time. 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:42.960 align:middle line:84% And doing that publication was just awesome. 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:45.920 align:middle line:84% I mean, we featured artists historically. 00:16:45.920 --> 00:16:49.430 align:middle line:84% I think the oldest submission that 00:16:49.430 --> 00:16:52.790 align:middle line:84% was in there was from, I want to say, the early '80s. 00:16:52.790 --> 00:16:57.140 align:middle line:84% So we included some pictures of old magazine articles 00:16:57.140 --> 00:17:00.050 align:middle line:84% based on the artist that was in there and their work, 00:17:00.050 --> 00:17:02.710 align:middle line:84% all the way up until current Student Invitational artists. 00:17:02.710 --> 00:17:05.400 align:middle line:84% And this is something that we hope to do in the future 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:05.900 align:middle line:90% as well. 00:17:05.900 --> 00:17:08.810 align:middle line:84% I want this to be a repeating publication, 00:17:08.810 --> 00:17:12.390 align:middle line:84% and we did actually sell out of that issue at 100 copies, 00:17:12.390 --> 00:17:14.900 align:middle line:90% so that was exciting. 00:17:14.900 --> 00:17:18.650 align:middle line:84% Right now since we have gained quite a following 00:17:18.650 --> 00:17:20.474 align:middle line:90% and a little extra capital-- 00:17:20.474 --> 00:17:22.099 align:middle line:84% which is really exciting for a business 00:17:22.099 --> 00:17:25.760 align:middle line:84% that started with zero dollars and just an idea-- 00:17:25.760 --> 00:17:28.970 align:middle line:84% it's our absolute mission to start getting artists paid. 00:17:28.970 --> 00:17:33.420 align:middle line:84% So we want to start providing more paid opportunities 00:17:33.420 --> 00:17:36.147 align:middle line:84% for artists that are in our network. 00:17:36.147 --> 00:17:38.730 align:middle line:84% Our first initiative, of course, was with the art books, which 00:17:38.730 --> 00:17:41.700 align:middle line:84% has been extremely successful, but we're also 00:17:41.700 --> 00:17:43.770 align:middle line:84% open to suggestions and collaboration 00:17:43.770 --> 00:17:45.773 align:middle line:90% that do get artists paid. 00:17:45.773 --> 00:17:47.190 align:middle line:84% Here are some art books that we've 00:17:47.190 --> 00:17:50.310 align:middle line:90% published, over to the right. 00:17:50.310 --> 00:17:53.130 align:middle line:84% We do everything from people that 00:17:53.130 --> 00:17:56.430 align:middle line:84% paint, people that are collage artists, people 00:17:56.430 --> 00:17:58.290 align:middle line:90% that are a hybrid of the two. 00:17:58.290 --> 00:18:02.610 align:middle line:84% Today we also debuted Gina's book, The Heart of Me, 00:18:02.610 --> 00:18:07.110 align:middle line:84% which was a hybrid Chatbook and photography 00:18:07.110 --> 00:18:11.010 align:middle line:84% experiment with some prints that actually came in the book. 00:18:11.010 --> 00:18:15.570 align:middle line:84% So we're open to not only just art books, but books that 00:18:15.570 --> 00:18:17.280 align:middle line:90% maybe are a hybrid of the two-- 00:18:17.280 --> 00:18:20.550 align:middle line:84% anything that fits within the art world, which is 00:18:20.550 --> 00:18:24.720 align:middle line:90% pretty expansive, as you know. 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:27.330 align:middle line:84% We offer free design and layout services 00:18:27.330 --> 00:18:30.060 align:middle line:84% to artists that can't do that on their own, 00:18:30.060 --> 00:18:33.360 align:middle line:84% and we do pay out commissions on a monthly basis based 00:18:33.360 --> 00:18:34.080 align:middle line:90% on books sold. 00:18:34.080 --> 00:18:37.350 align:middle line:84% So our model is you give us your idea, 00:18:37.350 --> 00:18:39.840 align:middle line:84% we design it if you need that help designing it, 00:18:39.840 --> 00:18:45.090 align:middle line:84% and we get it printed and out there into your fans' hands 00:18:45.090 --> 00:18:46.380 align:middle line:90% and pay you for it. 00:18:46.380 --> 00:18:50.340 align:middle line:84% So that really was my goal in the beginning-- 00:18:50.340 --> 00:18:55.140 align:middle line:84% was to help people make their book ideas come to fruition 00:18:55.140 --> 00:18:58.140 align:middle line:84% in any way that we can, and that's how we utilize 00:18:58.140 --> 00:18:59.730 align:middle line:90% our volunteer staff as well. 00:18:59.730 --> 00:19:04.390 align:middle line:84% And if some of our books require some special design layout, 00:19:04.390 --> 00:19:08.670 align:middle line:84% I'll ask our designer, Nicholas, for some tips on that. 00:19:08.670 --> 00:19:11.620 align:middle line:84% If it needs extra elements that are maybe handmade, 00:19:11.620 --> 00:19:13.320 align:middle line:84% we also offer those services, too. 00:19:13.320 --> 00:19:15.840 align:middle line:90% 00:19:15.840 --> 00:19:17.460 align:middle line:90% So far this year-- 00:19:17.460 --> 00:19:19.260 align:middle line:84% well, within the last year-- we've 00:19:19.260 --> 00:19:22.920 align:middle line:84% paid out $3,000 in artist book commissions, which 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:26.600 align:middle line:84% I think is just amazing to look at, again, as the company has 00:19:26.600 --> 00:19:28.830 align:middle line:90% started with nothing. 00:19:28.830 --> 00:19:31.083 align:middle line:84% I truly believe that there's demand 00:19:31.083 --> 00:19:33.750 align:middle line:84% for artists to want to get their work out there, and what better 00:19:33.750 --> 00:19:37.650 align:middle line:84% way than creating a mobile gallery, if you will, 00:19:37.650 --> 00:19:41.220 align:middle line:84% especially since we can't have as many in-person events. 00:19:41.220 --> 00:19:43.020 align:middle line:84% This is an excellent way for artists 00:19:43.020 --> 00:19:45.240 align:middle line:84% to get their work in the hands of people 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:47.320 align:middle line:90% all over the world really. 00:19:47.320 --> 00:19:51.840 align:middle line:84% Here's a photo of some examples of the handmade elements 00:19:51.840 --> 00:19:53.880 align:middle line:90% that we do offer. 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:56.760 align:middle line:84% So for this zine-- it's called Frown. 00:19:56.760 --> 00:20:00.240 align:middle line:84% It's by Izzy Valle, who's out of San Bernardino. 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:04.170 align:middle line:84% And he had a vision for his reprint of his zine 00:20:04.170 --> 00:20:05.670 align:middle line:84% that he had with us that there would 00:20:05.670 --> 00:20:07.710 align:middle line:90% be some handmade elements. 00:20:07.710 --> 00:20:12.880 align:middle line:84% So we found an artist and commissioned the block print, 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:14.800 align:middle line:84% and had the artist actually block 00:20:14.800 --> 00:20:19.240 align:middle line:84% print the cover of the book onto these individual envelopes. 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:22.450 align:middle line:84% And we found a handmade envelope that 00:20:22.450 --> 00:20:24.490 align:middle line:84% fit exactly the size of the prints that 00:20:24.490 --> 00:20:27.010 align:middle line:84% were going to be made, and we hand assembled those. 00:20:27.010 --> 00:20:30.860 align:middle line:84% So we don't only do the mass-produced perfect bound 00:20:30.860 --> 00:20:31.360 align:middle line:90% books. 00:20:31.360 --> 00:20:33.880 align:middle line:84% We also do offbeat things, like print zines 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:36.040 align:middle line:90% with handmade elements as well. 00:20:36.040 --> 00:20:38.710 align:middle line:84% In addition to the book services, 00:20:38.710 --> 00:20:43.570 align:middle line:84% we also will create merch with local print makers, screen 00:20:43.570 --> 00:20:46.520 align:middle line:90% printers, embroiders-- 00:20:46.520 --> 00:20:50.050 align:middle line:84% anyone in our network that we know is a small business 00:20:50.050 --> 00:20:54.630 align:middle line:84% and can get part of our project realized, 00:20:54.630 --> 00:20:56.380 align:middle line:84% we'll definitely reach out to those people 00:20:56.380 --> 00:21:02.350 align:middle line:84% and make the launch of the book even that much more special. 00:21:02.350 --> 00:21:05.790 align:middle line:84% So we do have paid internships available through Curious. 00:21:05.790 --> 00:21:09.810 align:middle line:84% Right now we have a paid photography internship. 00:21:09.810 --> 00:21:11.190 align:middle line:84% This gives people the opportunity 00:21:11.190 --> 00:21:13.380 align:middle line:84% to shoot new content for upcoming issues. 00:21:13.380 --> 00:21:16.860 align:middle line:84% We have product photography opportunities, and even 00:21:16.860 --> 00:21:19.500 align:middle line:84% journalistic type of opportunities 00:21:19.500 --> 00:21:21.510 align:middle line:90% for freelance writers. 00:21:21.510 --> 00:21:25.380 align:middle line:84% We also have a paid assistant internship for Curious Magazine 00:21:25.380 --> 00:21:27.460 align:middle line:90% for editing. 00:21:27.460 --> 00:21:30.810 align:middle line:84% So you can-- this is the biggest challenge in the company right 00:21:30.810 --> 00:21:32.430 align:middle line:90% now, since it's such a small-- 00:21:32.430 --> 00:21:34.305 align:middle line:84% I want to say small business, but really it's 00:21:34.305 --> 00:21:35.640 align:middle line:90% a tiny business. 00:21:35.640 --> 00:21:38.400 align:middle line:84% Managing our expectations properly 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:41.610 align:middle line:84% and being able to handle the volume of editing that 00:21:41.610 --> 00:21:44.400 align:middle line:84% can come up on a quarterly basis, 00:21:44.400 --> 00:21:46.080 align:middle line:84% and making sure that everything looks 00:21:46.080 --> 00:21:47.980 align:middle line:84% squared away and perfect for the artists 00:21:47.980 --> 00:21:50.400 align:middle line:84% so that it's really on that professional level 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:51.870 align:middle line:90% that we strive for. 00:21:51.870 --> 00:21:54.163 align:middle line:84% So we do have different opportunities 00:21:54.163 --> 00:21:55.830 align:middle line:84% for people to actually get paid and also 00:21:55.830 --> 00:21:57.330 align:middle line:84% be involved with curious and those 00:21:57.330 --> 00:21:59.880 align:middle line:90% always go up on our website 00:21:59.880 --> 00:22:01.950 align:middle line:90% So of course, pre-COVID-- 00:22:01.950 --> 00:22:03.880 align:middle line:84% pre-quarantine-- we had launch events, 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:08.430 align:middle line:84% which is how we initially would rely on our income, 00:22:08.430 --> 00:22:11.280 align:middle line:84% as we would do these public vendor events, 00:22:11.280 --> 00:22:15.030 align:middle line:84% and we would do a pre-sale model, which 00:22:15.030 --> 00:22:17.210 align:middle line:90% would pay for the event itself. 00:22:17.210 --> 00:22:19.030 align:middle line:90% So hopefully soon. 00:22:19.030 --> 00:22:21.960 align:middle line:84% I don't want to jump the gun on that one. 00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:26.880 align:middle line:84% Our biggest highlight to date was our Latinx launch 00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:28.280 align:middle line:90% at The Ram in March. 00:22:28.280 --> 00:22:29.940 align:middle line:84% So that was Riverside Art Museum. 00:22:29.940 --> 00:22:32.580 align:middle line:90% We had over 500 in attendance. 00:22:32.580 --> 00:22:34.080 align:middle line:84% In addition to our launch, they also 00:22:34.080 --> 00:22:36.210 align:middle line:84% had their just regular museum hours open, 00:22:36.210 --> 00:22:37.922 align:middle line:84% and a couple of live performances, which 00:22:37.922 --> 00:22:39.130 align:middle line:90% did help with the attendance. 00:22:39.130 --> 00:22:41.070 align:middle line:90% But it was excellent. 00:22:41.070 --> 00:22:43.330 align:middle line:84% We had, I want to say, 20 vendors. 00:22:43.330 --> 00:22:46.770 align:middle line:84% We have often [INAUDIBLE] performances. 00:22:46.770 --> 00:22:50.010 align:middle line:84% We have opportunities for assisting in event planning, 00:22:50.010 --> 00:22:54.720 align:middle line:84% so we do have a coordinator internship that is 00:22:54.720 --> 00:22:57.270 align:middle line:90% available for in-person events. 00:22:57.270 --> 00:23:00.900 align:middle line:84% And we use these events to bring all the artists together 00:23:00.900 --> 00:23:03.630 align:middle line:84% that are in the publication, and really celebrate 00:23:03.630 --> 00:23:05.400 align:middle line:90% the launch of the book event. 00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:07.350 align:middle line:84% We do this big scale events, but we've also 00:23:07.350 --> 00:23:10.200 align:middle line:84% done really small-scale book signings as well. 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:13.590 align:middle line:84% Pretty much anything that fits the particular publication, 00:23:13.590 --> 00:23:17.550 align:middle line:84% we'll partner with local businesses 00:23:17.550 --> 00:23:19.850 align:middle line:90% to make that come to light. 00:23:19.850 --> 00:23:23.240 align:middle line:84% The cool thing about in-person events and collaboration 00:23:23.240 --> 00:23:27.530 align:middle line:84% is you have the opportunity to do collaborations. 00:23:27.530 --> 00:23:29.360 align:middle line:84% This was an excellent collaboration 00:23:29.360 --> 00:23:31.910 align:middle line:84% that we had the opportunity to have with the Latinx event 00:23:31.910 --> 00:23:34.310 align:middle line:90% at the Riverside Art Museum. 00:23:34.310 --> 00:23:38.510 align:middle line:84% The Arts Area, which is our fiscal sponsor company, 00:23:38.510 --> 00:23:41.540 align:middle line:84% decided that it would probably be an excellent opportunity 00:23:41.540 --> 00:23:44.570 align:middle line:84% to host a panel discussion based on the topic that 00:23:44.570 --> 00:23:47.660 align:middle line:84% was concurrent with Curious Magazine. 00:23:47.660 --> 00:23:52.040 align:middle line:84% Here's a photo of the panelists from that discussion. 00:23:52.040 --> 00:23:58.400 align:middle line:84% So it brought in that more educational element 00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:01.490 align:middle line:84% that we do hope to incorporate more in the future, 00:24:01.490 --> 00:24:05.090 align:middle line:84% and it just brings different diverse audience that 00:24:05.090 --> 00:24:07.860 align:middle line:84% may not have just seen the magazine in the first place. 00:24:07.860 --> 00:24:09.980 align:middle line:84% So that was an awesome opportunity. 00:24:09.980 --> 00:24:12.740 align:middle line:84% I believe that we sold out of that panel discussion event, 00:24:12.740 --> 00:24:14.690 align:middle line:84% too, and it was hosted in their largest room, 00:24:14.690 --> 00:24:18.707 align:middle line:84% so that was a surprising, eye-opening, and exciting 00:24:18.707 --> 00:24:19.790 align:middle line:90% collaboration that we did. 00:24:19.790 --> 00:24:22.580 align:middle line:84% And we're definitely planning to do more in the future-- 00:24:22.580 --> 00:24:26.180 align:middle line:84% whenever we can do in-person discussions. 00:24:26.180 --> 00:24:28.310 align:middle line:84% Here's some photos from the Zinefest hosted 00:24:28.310 --> 00:24:30.433 align:middle line:84% at 性视界, which was awesome I 00:24:30.433 --> 00:24:31.850 align:middle line:84% think that this happened literally 00:24:31.850 --> 00:24:34.220 align:middle line:90% right before lockdown-- 00:24:34.220 --> 00:24:38.470 align:middle line:84% which it was on the verge of not happening, and then all 00:24:38.470 --> 00:24:39.720 align:middle line:90% of a sudden there was nothing. 00:24:39.720 --> 00:24:43.860 align:middle line:84% So I was happy that we were able to do it. 00:24:43.860 --> 00:24:45.800 align:middle line:84% So this was Zinefest at 性视界. 00:24:45.800 --> 00:24:48.500 align:middle line:84% We do participate in a lot of Zinefests. 00:24:48.500 --> 00:24:51.680 align:middle line:84% We host the biannual 5th Street Zinefest. 00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:54.020 align:middle line:84% This is brand new-- part of Redlands Art Walk-- 00:24:54.020 --> 00:24:55.880 align:middle line:84% and we've actually only done one. 00:24:55.880 --> 00:25:00.137 align:middle line:84% The next one was supposed to be less so last spring, 00:25:00.137 --> 00:25:01.970 align:middle line:84% and there was supposed to be one next month, 00:25:01.970 --> 00:25:04.490 align:middle line:84% but since this whole year has been kind of blacked out 00:25:04.490 --> 00:25:06.553 align:middle line:84% for events, it hasn't happened again. 00:25:06.553 --> 00:25:07.970 align:middle line:84% But for the 5th Straight Zinefest, 00:25:07.970 --> 00:25:11.990 align:middle line:84% we basically close down 5th Street during the art walk 00:25:11.990 --> 00:25:14.788 align:middle line:90% and have vendor events. 00:25:14.788 --> 00:25:15.830 align:middle line:90% Different zinesters show. 00:25:15.830 --> 00:25:18.800 align:middle line:84% We've participated in IE Zinefest, 00:25:18.800 --> 00:25:21.620 align:middle line:84% LA Independent Art Book Fair, the Claremont Zinefest-- 00:25:21.620 --> 00:25:24.410 align:middle line:84% which is hosted by Pitzer College-- 00:25:24.410 --> 00:25:27.380 align:middle line:84% and the Pomona Zinefest as well, which is an independently 00:25:27.380 --> 00:25:29.622 align:middle line:90% run Zinefest. 00:25:29.622 --> 00:25:33.260 align:middle line:84% So since we have switched to virtual, 00:25:33.260 --> 00:25:38.640 align:middle line:84% we're definitely keeping up with the movement to all online. 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:41.060 align:middle line:84% When we have the opportunity to, we 00:25:41.060 --> 00:25:44.150 align:middle line:84% do do live broadcasts on Instagram, talking to artists 00:25:44.150 --> 00:25:46.430 align:middle line:84% and discussing their released art books, 00:25:46.430 --> 00:25:51.470 align:middle line:84% or discussing just topics in general in the art world. 00:25:51.470 --> 00:25:53.073 align:middle line:84% We always do these over Instagram, 00:25:53.073 --> 00:25:54.740 align:middle line:84% so if you're not following our Instagram 00:25:54.740 --> 00:25:56.720 align:middle line:90% and you are on Instagram-- 00:25:56.720 --> 00:25:58.550 align:middle line:90% just @curiouspublishing. 00:25:58.550 --> 00:26:02.120 align:middle line:84% And we'll always post upcoming events that 00:26:02.120 --> 00:26:04.050 align:middle line:90% will be happening virtually-- 00:26:04.050 --> 00:26:06.860 align:middle line:84% happening different times a day to kind of suit 00:26:06.860 --> 00:26:08.300 align:middle line:90% different audiences as well. 00:26:08.300 --> 00:26:11.020 align:middle line:90% 00:26:11.020 --> 00:26:13.830 align:middle line:84% Even though we had to switch to all virtual events, 00:26:13.830 --> 00:26:17.730 align:middle line:84% it surprisingly has not affected our sales reach at all, 00:26:17.730 --> 00:26:19.170 align:middle line:90% or our audience reach. 00:26:19.170 --> 00:26:23.460 align:middle line:84% On average, we sell about 100 issues per magazine, 00:26:23.460 --> 00:26:25.590 align:middle line:84% and that hasn't changed, even though everything 00:26:25.590 --> 00:26:26.590 align:middle line:90% switched to virtual. 00:26:26.590 --> 00:26:28.048 align:middle line:84% Which was really surprising to me-- 00:26:28.048 --> 00:26:29.670 align:middle line:84% I really always thought that in person 00:26:29.670 --> 00:26:31.480 align:middle line:84% was why we were reaching so many people. 00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:34.650 align:middle line:84% So that surprisingly is going well. 00:26:34.650 --> 00:26:37.110 align:middle line:84% We actually sold out of the first edition of the women's 00:26:37.110 --> 00:26:39.060 align:middle line:84% issue before it was even out, and had 00:26:39.060 --> 00:26:43.600 align:middle line:84% to reprint a second edition, so that's going well. 00:26:43.600 --> 00:26:47.490 align:middle line:84% Which is awesome-- thanks for your support. 00:26:47.490 --> 00:26:49.520 align:middle line:84% So these are ways that you can stay updated 00:26:49.520 --> 00:26:50.690 align:middle line:90% with Curious Publishing. 00:26:50.690 --> 00:26:53.670 align:middle line:84% We're extremely active on our Instagram. 00:26:53.670 --> 00:26:55.910 align:middle line:84% Next I would say would be our website. 00:26:55.910 --> 00:27:00.200 align:middle line:84% Facebook as well, or if you just want to email me directly. 00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:02.540 align:middle line:84% I'm basically working from my phone 00:27:02.540 --> 00:27:05.150 align:middle line:84% when I'm not working my day job constantly. 00:27:05.150 --> 00:27:07.580 align:middle line:84% So I'm happy to answer any of your questions, 00:27:07.580 --> 00:27:12.385 align:middle line:84% or keep you updated on things going on with Curious. 00:27:12.385 --> 00:27:13.510 align:middle line:90% REBECCA TRAWICK: Excellent. 00:27:13.510 --> 00:27:14.657 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Rebecca. 00:27:14.657 --> 00:27:15.740 align:middle line:90% That was really wonderful. 00:27:15.740 --> 00:27:19.430 align:middle line:84% So I think at this point we'll move to questions. 00:27:19.430 --> 00:27:21.065 align:middle line:84% So as Roman mentioned, those of you 00:27:21.065 --> 00:27:22.940 align:middle line:84% who are in attendance, if you have questions, 00:27:22.940 --> 00:27:25.300 align:middle line:84% please do feel free either to ask them-- 00:27:25.300 --> 00:27:27.160 align:middle line:84% you can raise your hand, unmute yourself, 00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:28.540 align:middle line:90% and ask your question. 00:27:28.540 --> 00:27:29.990 align:middle line:84% Or you can type it into the chat, 00:27:29.990 --> 00:27:34.720 align:middle line:84% and either Andy or I will read it for you. 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:41.230 align:middle line:84% And I think we also have a few questions already. 00:27:41.230 --> 00:27:43.120 align:middle line:84% Andy, if you want to kick that off. 00:27:43.120 --> 00:27:45.580 align:middle line:90% ANDREW HADLE: Yeah, hi, Rebecca. 00:27:45.580 --> 00:27:48.280 align:middle line:84% Thank YOU that was really incredible 00:27:48.280 --> 00:27:52.150 align:middle line:84% work that you're doing with Curious Publishing. 00:27:52.150 --> 00:27:53.560 align:middle line:90% I mean, just everyone-- 00:27:53.560 --> 00:27:56.442 align:middle line:84% artists and small businesses and Inland Empire. 00:27:56.442 --> 00:27:57.400 align:middle line:90% It's really incredible. 00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:00.560 align:middle line:84% And you did it from the ground up, which is really, really, 00:28:00.560 --> 00:28:03.010 align:middle line:90% really great. 00:28:03.010 --> 00:28:04.810 align:middle line:84% So my question kind of follows that. 00:28:04.810 --> 00:28:09.130 align:middle line:84% I'm thinking-- do you have any advice for young artists 00:28:09.130 --> 00:28:12.580 align:middle line:84% who are trying to find their way in the art market, 00:28:12.580 --> 00:28:16.870 align:middle line:84% or just finding their way, finding their place in the art 00:28:16.870 --> 00:28:18.473 align:middle line:90% world just in general? 00:28:18.473 --> 00:28:19.390 align:middle line:90% REBECCA USTRELL: Sure. 00:28:19.390 --> 00:28:25.450 align:middle line:84% I think first I'd say is to really try and not 00:28:25.450 --> 00:28:29.230 align:middle line:84% be afraid to put your real self out there, 00:28:29.230 --> 00:28:33.220 align:middle line:84% and just trust that there is a ton of people 00:28:33.220 --> 00:28:34.700 align:middle line:90% that will be like-minded. 00:28:34.700 --> 00:28:36.360 align:middle line:84% And even if they're not like-minded, 00:28:36.360 --> 00:28:38.200 align:middle line:90% will be really into your mind. 00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:41.980 align:middle line:84% Will want to know why you create what you're creating. 00:28:41.980 --> 00:28:46.870 align:middle line:84% I do highly recommend moving to smaller versions 00:28:46.870 --> 00:28:50.350 align:middle line:84% of displaying work, such as a zine or a postcard. 00:28:50.350 --> 00:28:53.860 align:middle line:84% Or Instagram works, of course, but that physical element 00:28:53.860 --> 00:28:55.320 align:middle line:84% I think is really important still. 00:28:55.320 --> 00:28:59.560 align:middle line:84% And just finding economical, affordable ways 00:28:59.560 --> 00:29:01.480 align:middle line:90% to get yourself out there. 00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:04.480 align:middle line:84% I, of course, had some background and event planning 00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:07.540 align:middle line:84% and worked for the non-profit sector for a little while, 00:29:07.540 --> 00:29:13.030 align:middle line:84% so it kind of flowed into I guess my confidence 00:29:13.030 --> 00:29:15.370 align:middle line:90% in thinking that I could do it. 00:29:15.370 --> 00:29:18.850 align:middle line:84% But it really just stemmed from me just 00:29:18.850 --> 00:29:21.160 align:middle line:84% in my head knowing well, if I love this so much, 00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:22.480 align:middle line:84% then there's got to be people out there that 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:23.730 align:middle line:90% want to know about it, too. 00:29:23.730 --> 00:29:25.105 align:middle line:84% Because of course, when I started 00:29:25.105 --> 00:29:28.730 align:middle line:84% a company that was print-based, I got a lot of eyebrow raises. 00:29:28.730 --> 00:29:31.630 align:middle line:84% Like, well, why the hell are you doing a print magazine 00:29:31.630 --> 00:29:33.520 align:middle line:84% when even some of the biggest magazines 00:29:33.520 --> 00:29:35.520 align:middle line:90% have transitioned online? 00:29:35.520 --> 00:29:38.500 align:middle line:84% I think the answer simply is that yeah, it's a magazine, 00:29:38.500 --> 00:29:41.100 align:middle line:84% but it's also a collection of artwork. 00:29:41.100 --> 00:29:44.710 align:middle line:84% It's a print bound together, if you will. 00:29:44.710 --> 00:29:46.660 align:middle line:84% And a lot of the time, that's the only way 00:29:46.660 --> 00:29:50.260 align:middle line:84% that some people have access to that much art at once. 00:29:50.260 --> 00:29:51.940 align:middle line:84% Consider it like a mobile gallery. 00:29:51.940 --> 00:29:56.080 align:middle line:84% So I think artists inherently are creative, 00:29:56.080 --> 00:29:58.750 align:middle line:84% and you just kind of have to harness that energy that you 00:29:58.750 --> 00:30:02.635 align:middle line:84% have with your own work, and want other people to see it. 00:30:02.635 --> 00:30:04.510 align:middle line:84% And if you don't want other people to see it, 00:30:04.510 --> 00:30:09.100 align:middle line:84% then you're probably not watching this. 00:30:09.100 --> 00:30:10.990 align:middle line:84% Or you're trying to get the confidence to, 00:30:10.990 --> 00:30:14.750 align:middle line:84% but really it's just all about having a little bit of balls, 00:30:14.750 --> 00:30:16.510 align:middle line:90% I don't know-- 00:30:16.510 --> 00:30:18.430 align:middle line:84% taking a risk and trusting yourself. 00:30:18.430 --> 00:30:22.217 align:middle line:90% 00:30:22.217 --> 00:30:23.800 align:middle line:84% REBECCA TRAWICK: So I have a question. 00:30:23.800 --> 00:30:29.470 align:middle line:84% I know 2020 has been a challenge for a huge host of reasons-- 00:30:29.470 --> 00:30:31.680 align:middle line:90% COVID among many. 00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:35.710 align:middle line:84% For so many of us, I know you yourself have experienced 00:30:35.710 --> 00:30:40.200 align:middle line:84% additional challenges personally and professionally 00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:42.497 align:middle line:84% in your own life, which you don't necessarily 00:30:42.497 --> 00:30:43.330 align:middle line:90% have to share about. 00:30:43.330 --> 00:30:46.990 align:middle line:84% But I just wonder how 2020, how COVID, how this year affected 00:30:46.990 --> 00:30:51.930 align:middle line:84% your work, affected your vision for the future, both 00:30:51.930 --> 00:30:54.640 align:middle line:84% of Curious Publishing and your own professional practice 00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:55.703 align:middle line:90% as well. 00:30:55.703 --> 00:30:56.620 align:middle line:90% REBECCA USTRELL: Sure. 00:30:56.620 --> 00:31:00.533 align:middle line:84% So pretty much like in the beginning of the year 00:31:00.533 --> 00:31:02.700 align:middle line:84% is when all of the lockdown stuff started to happen. 00:31:02.700 --> 00:31:05.990 align:middle line:84% It was in March, so we weren't really much into the year, 00:31:05.990 --> 00:31:07.870 align:middle line:90% especially after the holidays. 00:31:07.870 --> 00:31:09.640 align:middle line:84% I do work in retail, so we were still 00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:14.050 align:middle line:84% coming off of that exhaustion from doing holiday stuff. 00:31:14.050 --> 00:31:16.890 align:middle line:84% And I had this big issue planned with Latinx, 00:31:16.890 --> 00:31:18.460 align:middle line:84% and we didn't get to do that event. 00:31:18.460 --> 00:31:20.737 align:middle line:84% It was actually also right before everything 00:31:20.737 --> 00:31:21.320 align:middle line:90% was shut down. 00:31:21.320 --> 00:31:24.010 align:middle line:84% So luckily it didn't affect that, 00:31:24.010 --> 00:31:28.750 align:middle line:84% but when I had to start canceling smaller book launches 00:31:28.750 --> 00:31:30.880 align:middle line:84% and considering that I would have 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:34.740 align:middle line:84% to not have a launch event, it scared the crap out of me. 00:31:34.740 --> 00:31:36.700 align:middle line:90% I was just like I don't get it. 00:31:36.700 --> 00:31:38.080 align:middle line:90% This was my format-- 00:31:38.080 --> 00:31:39.860 align:middle line:90% in person stuff was my format. 00:31:39.860 --> 00:31:41.740 align:middle line:90% So it took a-- 00:31:41.740 --> 00:31:45.700 align:middle line:84% obviously, psychologically it was devastating. 00:31:45.700 --> 00:31:47.350 align:middle line:90% I honestly was like I'm not-- 00:31:47.350 --> 00:31:49.780 align:middle line:84% I don't understand how I'm going to be able to even print 00:31:49.780 --> 00:31:51.100 align:middle line:90% another magazine. 00:31:51.100 --> 00:31:55.540 align:middle line:84% If I can't have that in person reach, I don't understand much. 00:31:55.540 --> 00:31:58.330 align:middle line:84% I did have an online store, but I wasn't shipping 00:31:58.330 --> 00:31:59.930 align:middle line:90% hundreds of packages at a time. 00:31:59.930 --> 00:32:03.220 align:middle line:84% So the volume aspect was scary to me. 00:32:03.220 --> 00:32:07.190 align:middle line:84% And then I'm totally willing to talk about the house 00:32:07.190 --> 00:32:11.440 align:middle line:84% fire that happened at my house in June, which was accidental. 00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:13.480 align:middle line:84% I was living with a couple of artist friends, 00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:15.820 align:middle line:84% and we lived in one of those really old houses 00:32:15.820 --> 00:32:18.850 align:middle line:84% in Lincoln Park and Pomona, and there was a fire. 00:32:18.850 --> 00:32:23.770 align:middle line:84% And it totally destroyed our personal belongings, injured 00:32:23.770 --> 00:32:26.642 align:middle line:84% one of my roommates, and of course, I'm 00:32:26.642 --> 00:32:29.770 align:middle line:84% a small business-- all of Curious Publishing's property 00:32:29.770 --> 00:32:32.680 align:middle line:90% was burned to the ground. 00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:36.070 align:middle line:84% The stuff that was salvageable, it wasn't really salvageable 00:32:36.070 --> 00:32:38.890 align:middle line:84% because it was either wet or covered in soot. 00:32:38.890 --> 00:32:44.680 align:middle line:84% And that's-- I think I estimated it around like a $5,000 retail 00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:50.912 align:middle line:84% value and a just over $1,700 print value of our items, 00:32:50.912 --> 00:32:52.120 align:middle line:90% which were just totally gone. 00:32:52.120 --> 00:32:55.820 align:middle line:84% So we had to totally just close our store for a whole month, 00:32:55.820 --> 00:32:58.030 align:middle line:90% and we lost money of course. 00:32:58.030 --> 00:33:00.245 align:middle line:90% But I think that I kind of-- 00:33:00.245 --> 00:33:02.120 align:middle line:84% I mean, I know I have a supportive community, 00:33:02.120 --> 00:33:04.660 align:middle line:84% but I think I underestimated how supportive they would be. 00:33:04.660 --> 00:33:08.590 align:middle line:84% And we immediately started getting donations 00:33:08.590 --> 00:33:12.220 align:middle line:84% on our GoFundMe, which put me back on my feet personally. 00:33:12.220 --> 00:33:14.200 align:middle line:84% And then we had a separate GoFundMe me 00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:16.770 align:middle line:90% that was for Curious Publishing. 00:33:16.770 --> 00:33:19.570 align:middle line:84% Our printer-- Spin Print out in Lake Forrest 00:33:19.570 --> 00:33:21.430 align:middle line:84% that we work with-- totally replenished 00:33:21.430 --> 00:33:24.370 align:middle line:84% our book without charging us, which was just huge. 00:33:24.370 --> 00:33:25.990 align:middle line:90% It was hundreds of books. 00:33:25.990 --> 00:33:27.490 align:middle line:84% They really did not have to do that, 00:33:27.490 --> 00:33:30.820 align:middle line:84% but I just simply emailed them and said, 00:33:30.820 --> 00:33:32.050 align:middle line:90% everything burned down. 00:33:32.050 --> 00:33:34.103 align:middle line:84% I'm safe, and I need to reorder my books. 00:33:34.103 --> 00:33:36.520 align:middle line:84% Because I did have a little bit of money that was donated, 00:33:36.520 --> 00:33:38.812 align:middle line:84% which I could use to get the store back up and running, 00:33:38.812 --> 00:33:41.080 align:middle line:84% but they did it with no questions asked. 00:33:41.080 --> 00:33:45.460 align:middle line:84% And we also had the auction, which was donated artwork. 00:33:45.460 --> 00:33:50.912 align:middle line:84% And people could bid on online, and we made probably-- 00:33:50.912 --> 00:33:52.870 align:middle line:84% after the auction and after all the donations-- 00:33:52.870 --> 00:33:55.780 align:middle line:84% we were able to replenish everything that we lost, 00:33:55.780 --> 00:33:59.990 align:middle line:84% within a matter of two months, which was a huge turnaround. 00:33:59.990 --> 00:34:01.480 align:middle line:84% I even landed on my feet personally 00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:05.830 align:middle line:84% and was able to find a home with an artist friend and colleague, 00:34:05.830 --> 00:34:06.730 align:middle line:90% really local, too. 00:34:06.730 --> 00:34:08.320 align:middle line:84% I only moved from Pomona to Upland. 00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:12.460 align:middle line:84% So all of the community that I gained through Curious 00:34:12.460 --> 00:34:15.940 align:middle line:84% Publishing is the only reason why I have a roof over my head 00:34:15.940 --> 00:34:20.020 align:middle line:84% and my company didn't totally fail after the fire. 00:34:20.020 --> 00:34:26.290 align:middle line:84% So of course, those things are traumatic personally for me. 00:34:26.290 --> 00:34:32.139 align:middle line:84% I almost totally stopped my personal artwork after that, 00:34:32.139 --> 00:34:33.880 align:middle line:84% because all of that original artwork 00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:35.090 align:middle line:90% did get destroyed as well. 00:34:35.090 --> 00:34:38.130 align:middle line:84% So that's been hard to deal with-- 00:34:38.130 --> 00:34:42.234 align:middle line:84% just not having those cherished drawings 00:34:42.234 --> 00:34:43.639 align:middle line:90% that I spent all this time on. 00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:46.409 align:middle line:84% But it also taught me such a valuable lesson 00:34:46.409 --> 00:34:50.940 align:middle line:84% of just not holding onto things so preciously, 00:34:50.940 --> 00:34:54.690 align:middle line:84% and really seizing the moment, and also just being 00:34:54.690 --> 00:34:56.580 align:middle line:84% real prepared and switching to digital. 00:34:56.580 --> 00:35:00.000 align:middle line:84% I mean, we have all our files for Curious that survived, 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.880 align:middle line:84% because I happened to save my computer 00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:04.650 align:middle line:90% and my external hard drive. 00:35:04.650 --> 00:35:06.550 align:middle line:84% That's basically all I ran out of the house 00:35:06.550 --> 00:35:10.140 align:middle line:84% with was my phone, my purse, my passport, and my computer. 00:35:10.140 --> 00:35:13.190 align:middle line:84% And that's why Curious is probably doing OK, 00:35:13.190 --> 00:35:15.000 align:middle line:84% other than the support that I got. 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:18.080 align:middle line:84% So hopefully that answers your question. 00:35:18.080 --> 00:35:20.330 align:middle line:84% REBECCA TRAWICK: What an amazing example of mutual aid 00:35:20.330 --> 00:35:24.240 align:middle line:84% and community coming to the aid of someone who 00:35:24.240 --> 00:35:25.410 align:middle line:90% is really important to them. 00:35:25.410 --> 00:35:28.400 align:middle line:84% So I'm so sorry you went through that, 00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:30.500 align:middle line:84% but it's a beautiful story in the end. 00:35:30.500 --> 00:35:33.660 align:middle line:90% Thank you for sharing that. 00:35:33.660 --> 00:35:37.820 align:middle line:84% So I had a question, too, about your own personal work. 00:35:37.820 --> 00:35:39.860 align:middle line:84% I know that wasn't the focus today, 00:35:39.860 --> 00:35:43.820 align:middle line:84% but I think we saw little hints of it in your presentation, 00:35:43.820 --> 00:35:44.900 align:middle line:90% right? 00:35:44.900 --> 00:35:47.840 align:middle line:84% It's very personal-- very confessional. 00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:50.630 align:middle line:84% And so I think you kind of talked about that-- 00:35:50.630 --> 00:35:52.137 align:middle line:90% about having bravery. 00:35:52.137 --> 00:35:54.470 align:middle line:84% I just wondered if you have any advice for young artists 00:35:54.470 --> 00:35:56.750 align:middle line:84% who are a little trepidatious about sharing 00:35:56.750 --> 00:35:59.900 align:middle line:84% work that is of a personal nature, or a political nature, 00:35:59.900 --> 00:36:02.843 align:middle line:84% or something that is controversial. 00:36:02.843 --> 00:36:04.010 align:middle line:90% REBECCA USTRELL: Well, sure. 00:36:04.010 --> 00:36:06.620 align:middle line:90% So I do draw nudity-- 00:36:06.620 --> 00:36:07.940 align:middle line:90% both female and male. 00:36:07.940 --> 00:36:09.710 align:middle line:84% And honestly the first time I ever 00:36:09.710 --> 00:36:13.690 align:middle line:84% do a fully nude male drawing, it freaked even me out, 00:36:13.690 --> 00:36:16.340 align:middle line:84% even though I'm used to seeing that kind of body, 00:36:16.340 --> 00:36:18.320 align:middle line:90% and it was in private. 00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:20.230 align:middle line:90% And was like, oh, no-- 00:36:20.230 --> 00:36:22.550 align:middle line:90% I drew a penis. 00:36:22.550 --> 00:36:23.560 align:middle line:90% Do I show anyone? 00:36:23.560 --> 00:36:25.680 align:middle line:90% That kind of thing. 00:36:25.680 --> 00:36:31.430 align:middle line:84% So I think being nervous about sharing the body 00:36:31.430 --> 00:36:33.830 align:middle line:90% or sharing deep thoughts-- 00:36:33.830 --> 00:36:36.050 align:middle line:84% that's totally healthy and normal. 00:36:36.050 --> 00:36:37.970 align:middle line:84% No one really wants to be totally exposed-- 00:36:37.970 --> 00:36:40.130 align:middle line:84% unless you're that kind of performance artist, then 00:36:40.130 --> 00:36:40.820 align:middle line:90% that's amazing. 00:36:40.820 --> 00:36:42.370 align:middle line:90% I want to meet you. 00:36:42.370 --> 00:36:46.490 align:middle line:84% But even I don't really love putting myself out there, 00:36:46.490 --> 00:36:51.530 align:middle line:84% but it's just important to me to give little peaks 00:36:51.530 --> 00:36:54.840 align:middle line:84% into my identity, because it's really what drives my art. 00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:59.150 align:middle line:84% And I think that just trusting that-- 00:36:59.150 --> 00:37:01.970 align:middle line:84% trusting in yourself, and making sure 00:37:01.970 --> 00:37:04.940 align:middle line:84% that you're not exposing a part of yourself you're not 00:37:04.940 --> 00:37:08.300 align:middle line:84% comfortable with, and trusting that other people do 00:37:08.300 --> 00:37:11.120 align:middle line:90% have empathy and want to relate. 00:37:11.120 --> 00:37:14.540 align:middle line:84% And just knowing that there are allies out there, 00:37:14.540 --> 00:37:16.130 align:middle line:90% and there's the right community. 00:37:16.130 --> 00:37:18.990 align:middle line:84% There's an audience for almost any type of art, I believe, 00:37:18.990 --> 00:37:21.350 align:middle line:84% and it's just a matter of finding that community 00:37:21.350 --> 00:37:22.220 align:middle line:90% and thriving in it. 00:37:22.220 --> 00:37:27.740 align:middle line:90% 00:37:27.740 --> 00:37:30.330 align:middle line:84% ANDREW HADLE: I have another question, and kind 00:37:30.330 --> 00:37:31.350 align:middle line:90% of a comment. 00:37:31.350 --> 00:37:32.850 align:middle line:84% First of all, I just want to say I'm 00:37:32.850 --> 00:37:35.050 align:middle line:84% sorry to hear about your loss of summer. 00:37:35.050 --> 00:37:39.180 align:middle line:84% I know you did well on it, but that's terrible news, 00:37:39.180 --> 00:37:41.940 align:middle line:90% and I'm glad you bounced back. 00:37:41.940 --> 00:37:44.070 align:middle line:84% So maybe kind of going off of that a little bit, 00:37:44.070 --> 00:37:48.260 align:middle line:84% I wanted to ask you about maybe the importance of networking 00:37:48.260 --> 00:37:53.730 align:middle line:84% as a working professional, just in the business 00:37:53.730 --> 00:37:55.620 align:middle line:90% sense in the art world. 00:37:55.620 --> 00:38:00.360 align:middle line:84% Obviously that networking and that social environment 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:03.180 align:middle line:90% you've created helped you a lot. 00:38:03.180 --> 00:38:08.560 align:middle line:84% Is there anything you can talk about in how you built that? 00:38:08.560 --> 00:38:09.580 align:middle line:90% REBECCA USTRELL: Sure. 00:38:09.580 --> 00:38:14.010 align:middle line:84% So I know a lot of people in my age category 00:38:14.010 --> 00:38:16.170 align:middle line:90% just loathe the word networking. 00:38:16.170 --> 00:38:16.970 align:middle line:90% They just hate it. 00:38:16.970 --> 00:38:19.500 align:middle line:84% Networking-- it sounds lame, sounds sales-y, 00:38:19.500 --> 00:38:21.787 align:middle line:90% sounds ingenuine. 00:38:21.787 --> 00:38:23.370 align:middle line:84% You don't have to call it networking-- 00:38:23.370 --> 00:38:24.745 align:middle line:84% just call a building a community. 00:38:24.745 --> 00:38:27.030 align:middle line:84% It's the same thing whether you're in sales 00:38:27.030 --> 00:38:29.280 align:middle line:90% or you're in the art sector. 00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:37.470 align:middle line:84% So art as it is-- as a form of entertainment or indulging-- it 00:38:37.470 --> 00:38:40.350 align:middle line:84% doesn't exist without a network of people 00:38:40.350 --> 00:38:46.590 align:middle line:84% that are interested and excited to share those words 00:38:46.590 --> 00:38:49.030 align:middle line:90% or pictures or what have you. 00:38:49.030 --> 00:38:57.803 align:middle line:84% So as an artist, I really don't think that without my-- 00:38:57.803 --> 00:38:59.220 align:middle line:84% I don't really know how to put it. 00:38:59.220 --> 00:39:02.270 align:middle line:84% So obviously my friends were my first patrons, 00:39:02.270 --> 00:39:05.060 align:middle line:84% so I do want put that out that that's totally normal. 00:39:05.060 --> 00:39:07.100 align:middle line:84% But those friends will tell their friends, 00:39:07.100 --> 00:39:08.750 align:middle line:90% and then when you-- 00:39:08.750 --> 00:39:10.270 align:middle line:84% when you put your work out there, 00:39:10.270 --> 00:39:13.122 align:middle line:84% even if just in the magazine-- don't mean to plug it, 00:39:13.122 --> 00:39:14.580 align:middle line:84% like I've already been plugging it. 00:39:14.580 --> 00:39:16.550 align:middle line:84% But you're going to have those opportunities 00:39:16.550 --> 00:39:19.280 align:middle line:84% where people that wouldn't have seen your work will see it. 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:24.550 align:middle line:84% And just expanding your bandwidth 00:39:24.550 --> 00:39:28.770 align:middle line:84% is statistically just going to have more eyes on your work. 00:39:28.770 --> 00:39:33.020 align:middle line:84% So I think that it's always important to not always be 00:39:33.020 --> 00:39:35.120 align:middle line:84% having tunnel vision about your work-- 00:39:35.120 --> 00:39:37.880 align:middle line:84% not only focusing on your one captive audience-- 00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:39.920 align:middle line:84% but expanding your captive audience 00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:42.840 align:middle line:84% that's inevitably going to be ever-changing. 00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:44.750 align:middle line:90% So good ways to network-- 00:39:44.750 --> 00:39:47.210 align:middle line:84% I think right now Instagram is the hugest way for artists 00:39:47.210 --> 00:39:50.330 align:middle line:84% to network, just reposting, commenting on things. 00:39:50.330 --> 00:39:53.590 align:middle line:84% Collaborating in group projects is huge. 00:39:53.590 --> 00:39:57.410 align:middle line:84% Group shows, even if they're just virtual right now. 00:39:57.410 --> 00:40:00.080 align:middle line:84% Applying to different compilation magazines 00:40:00.080 --> 00:40:01.130 align:middle line:90% other than Curious. 00:40:01.130 --> 00:40:03.500 align:middle line:84% There's a ton of opportunities out there. 00:40:03.500 --> 00:40:06.350 align:middle line:84% And then also just keeping an open line of communication 00:40:06.350 --> 00:40:07.310 align:middle line:90% to your allies. 00:40:07.310 --> 00:40:11.660 align:middle line:84% And just being-- if that's your personality, 00:40:11.660 --> 00:40:14.030 align:middle line:84% being the kind of person that can 00:40:14.030 --> 00:40:17.540 align:middle line:84% take feedback and collaborate and make bigger ideas 00:40:17.540 --> 00:40:18.440 align:middle line:90% come to fruition. 00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:22.250 align:middle line:84% Because even though I do take a lot on with Curious, 00:40:22.250 --> 00:40:26.870 align:middle line:84% it wouldn't be happening if I didn't have my crew-- 00:40:26.870 --> 00:40:27.800 align:middle line:90% my networking crew. 00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:34.292 align:middle line:90% 00:40:34.292 --> 00:40:36.250 align:middle line:84% REBECCA TRAWICK: Louis, do you have a question? 00:40:36.250 --> 00:40:39.060 align:middle line:90% 00:40:39.060 --> 00:40:42.460 align:middle line:90% LOUIS: [INAUDIBLE]. 00:40:42.460 --> 00:40:43.930 align:middle line:90% One second. 00:40:43.930 --> 00:40:47.330 align:middle line:84% I just wanted to talk about what she talked about. 00:40:47.330 --> 00:40:50.010 align:middle line:84% These are the really beautiful things. 00:40:50.010 --> 00:40:54.130 align:middle line:84% [INAUDIBLE] beautiful things like small business owner, 00:40:54.130 --> 00:41:01.640 align:middle line:90% and I mean not like-- 00:41:01.640 --> 00:41:07.520 align:middle line:84% I'm really down, but I think it's amazing what she does. 00:41:07.520 --> 00:41:10.480 align:middle line:84% That she's a small business owner, and she's doing. 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:15.410 align:middle line:90% 00:41:15.410 --> 00:41:24.410 align:middle line:84% I wrote it down, non-profit people, [INAUDIBLE] yourself. 00:41:24.410 --> 00:41:26.780 align:middle line:84% My grandfather was a small business owner. 00:41:26.780 --> 00:41:30.240 align:middle line:84% And she went out, and she helps people. 00:41:30.240 --> 00:41:31.250 align:middle line:90% She helps people. 00:41:31.250 --> 00:41:33.890 align:middle line:84% I'm in my grandfather's room right now, [INAUDIBLE] 00:41:33.890 --> 00:41:35.270 align:middle line:90% right now. 00:41:35.270 --> 00:41:39.780 align:middle line:84% I mean, just like, everything that she said was beautiful. 00:41:39.780 --> 00:41:44.256 align:middle line:84% How she wanted to help people, in put herself out there. 00:41:44.256 --> 00:41:48.472 align:middle line:90% 00:41:48.472 --> 00:41:51.610 align:middle line:90% I'm sorry. 00:41:51.610 --> 00:41:52.980 align:middle line:90% REBECCA USTRELL: Thank you. 00:41:52.980 --> 00:41:53.900 align:middle line:90% LOUIS: [INAUDIBLE]. 00:41:53.900 --> 00:42:02.180 align:middle line:90% 00:42:02.180 --> 00:42:08.620 align:middle line:84% She's a sociology major and [INAUDIBLE] sociology later 00:42:08.620 --> 00:42:10.530 align:middle line:90% to be a therapist. 00:42:10.530 --> 00:42:12.050 align:middle line:90% And [INAUDIBLE]. 00:42:12.050 --> 00:42:17.935 align:middle line:90% 00:42:17.935 --> 00:42:23.080 align:middle line:84% To be a small business owner, that's not easy. 00:42:23.080 --> 00:42:24.880 align:middle line:84% I mean, I can go to therapy in school 00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:26.784 align:middle line:90% because of my grandfather. 00:42:26.784 --> 00:42:30.190 align:middle line:84% He started a small business, and that's 00:42:30.190 --> 00:42:34.060 align:middle line:84% why I'm able to do things I can do, because of him. 00:42:34.060 --> 00:42:39.030 align:middle line:84% I can see so much motivational from her, and that's classy. 00:42:39.030 --> 00:42:40.770 align:middle line:90% REBECCA USTRELL: Thank you. 00:42:40.770 --> 00:42:42.520 align:middle line:90% REBECCA TRAWICK: Thanks, Louis. 00:42:42.520 --> 00:42:43.890 align:middle line:90% Rebecca, I have a question. 00:42:43.890 --> 00:42:47.640 align:middle line:84% I love-- I think it's so amazing that through COVID you 00:42:47.640 --> 00:42:51.560 align:middle line:84% haven't seen a decrease in sales and outreach. 00:42:51.560 --> 00:42:55.993 align:middle line:84% I mean, brava to you-- that's incredible. 00:42:55.993 --> 00:42:57.660 align:middle line:84% So sort of going through this experience 00:42:57.660 --> 00:43:01.380 align:middle line:84% and seeing the fact that you're still building community, 00:43:01.380 --> 00:43:07.020 align:middle line:84% you're still making sales, your outreach is still working-- 00:43:07.020 --> 00:43:12.270 align:middle line:84% has it reframed your vision for future events and programs 00:43:12.270 --> 00:43:13.827 align:middle line:90% and outreach? 00:43:13.827 --> 00:43:15.160 align:middle line:90% REBECCA USTRELL: Oh, absolutely. 00:43:15.160 --> 00:43:20.800 align:middle line:84% So it's made me realize that even in a pandemic, 00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:23.470 align:middle line:84% there's an audience on wants art. 00:43:23.470 --> 00:43:25.510 align:middle line:84% They want to see their friends' art. 00:43:25.510 --> 00:43:28.270 align:middle line:84% They want to see their peers and what they're doing. 00:43:28.270 --> 00:43:29.930 align:middle line:90% That want hasn't gone away. 00:43:29.930 --> 00:43:32.640 align:middle line:84% I think it's actually gone up, especially 00:43:32.640 --> 00:43:35.050 align:middle line:84% not only as a form of escape, but also just 00:43:35.050 --> 00:43:36.080 align:middle line:90% as a form of support. 00:43:36.080 --> 00:43:38.497 align:middle line:84% There's a lot of people that financially aren't doing well 00:43:38.497 --> 00:43:41.830 align:middle line:84% right now, so they're really hitting hard with DIY, 00:43:41.830 --> 00:43:43.570 align:middle line:84% making their own prints, opening up 00:43:43.570 --> 00:43:48.370 align:middle line:84% their online store-- which they previously had no time to do. 00:43:48.370 --> 00:43:51.460 align:middle line:84% I think that in the future, what I'm going to realize 00:43:51.460 --> 00:43:54.400 align:middle line:84% is to take it a little more easy and not 00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:57.100 align:middle line:84% put so much pressure on myself to present 00:43:57.100 --> 00:43:59.050 align:middle line:84% these things in person, since now I 00:43:59.050 --> 00:44:04.777 align:middle line:84% know that it totally translates virtually and through delivery. 00:44:04.777 --> 00:44:06.610 align:middle line:84% We really don't know what to expect-- what's 00:44:06.610 --> 00:44:08.440 align:middle line:84% going to come next-- so I anticipate 00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:11.260 align:middle line:84% there's going to be another change when the market opens 00:44:11.260 --> 00:44:12.220 align:middle line:90% back up. 00:44:12.220 --> 00:44:15.160 align:middle line:84% How are those in-person events going to look? 00:44:15.160 --> 00:44:16.980 align:middle line:84% Probably not going to be as crowded. 00:44:16.980 --> 00:44:19.840 align:middle line:84% It's all things that I'm just constantly going 00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:20.870 align:middle line:90% to have to adjust to. 00:44:20.870 --> 00:44:24.250 align:middle line:84% So I will say that owning a small business-- you really 00:44:24.250 --> 00:44:28.278 align:middle line:84% can't expect the same thing to always happen, 00:44:28.278 --> 00:44:30.070 align:middle line:84% especially if you're in the creative field. 00:44:30.070 --> 00:44:35.660 align:middle line:84% You have to be willing to change with the trends and the laws, 00:44:35.660 --> 00:44:36.160 align:middle line:90% honestly. 00:44:36.160 --> 00:44:38.595 align:middle line:90% 00:44:38.595 --> 00:44:40.720 align:middle line:84% REBECCA TRAWICK: John shared something in the chat. 00:44:40.720 --> 00:44:42.080 align:middle line:90% John, do you want to-- 00:44:42.080 --> 00:44:44.780 align:middle line:90% REBECCA USTRELL: Thanks, John. 00:44:44.780 --> 00:44:46.662 align:middle line:90% REBECCA TRAWICK: Thank you. 00:44:46.662 --> 00:44:48.620 align:middle line:84% REBECCA USTRELL: Yes, it's been awesome working 00:44:48.620 --> 00:44:49.700 align:middle line:90% with a fiscal sponsor. 00:44:49.700 --> 00:44:53.180 align:middle line:84% I mean, they basically do all of my back-end accounting 00:44:53.180 --> 00:44:56.870 align:middle line:84% paperwork, and they do this for other smaller businesses-- 00:44:56.870 --> 00:44:59.130 align:middle line:84% not just mine-- but I was their first project. 00:44:59.130 --> 00:45:02.900 align:middle line:90% So I feel lucky in that. 00:45:02.900 --> 00:45:04.200 align:middle line:90% REBECCA TRAWICK: That's great. 00:45:04.200 --> 00:45:06.060 align:middle line:84% So you mentioned your day job, and I know 00:45:06.060 --> 00:45:08.730 align:middle line:90% that can be a real challenge. 00:45:08.730 --> 00:45:11.370 align:middle line:84% You've also talked about taking it easy on yourself 00:45:11.370 --> 00:45:12.800 align:middle line:90% and changing your expectations. 00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:16.080 align:middle line:84% And so you've got your personal practice, 00:45:16.080 --> 00:45:19.050 align:middle line:84% you've got the business, you've got your day job-- 00:45:19.050 --> 00:45:21.840 align:middle line:90% that's a lot going on. 00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:23.700 align:middle line:84% I hate the word balance, but for lack 00:45:23.700 --> 00:45:26.322 align:middle line:84% of a better word, how do you find that balance? 00:45:26.322 --> 00:45:27.780 align:middle line:84% REBECCA USTRELL: The truth is, it's 00:45:27.780 --> 00:45:29.170 align:middle line:90% not very balanced right now. 00:45:29.170 --> 00:45:32.850 align:middle line:90% I'm working myself hard-- 00:45:32.850 --> 00:45:35.310 align:middle line:84% probably the hardest I've ever worked myself. 00:45:35.310 --> 00:45:38.250 align:middle line:84% And I think that that's just because my lifestyle has 00:45:38.250 --> 00:45:42.797 align:middle line:84% changed since I lost my possessions. 00:45:42.797 --> 00:45:44.880 align:middle line:84% Obviously that's going to take a lot of adjusting, 00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:47.515 align:middle line:84% and I think most people would put their company on hold 00:45:47.515 --> 00:45:49.140 align:middle line:84% for a little while, but I really didn't 00:45:49.140 --> 00:45:52.730 align:middle line:84% want to risk Curious being forgotten. 00:45:52.730 --> 00:45:56.770 align:middle line:84% I'd worked so hard that that was my baby and my priority. 00:45:56.770 --> 00:46:00.040 align:middle line:84% I don't have any kids, and I'm not married-- 00:46:00.040 --> 00:46:01.400 align:middle line:90% that was like my main priority. 00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:04.510 align:middle line:84% So I consider it like I'm married 00:46:04.510 --> 00:46:07.820 align:middle line:90% to my company or something. 00:46:07.820 --> 00:46:11.920 align:middle line:84% Yeah, so my next thing that I'm going 00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:14.740 align:middle line:84% to do for myself and for the company is take that risk 00:46:14.740 --> 00:46:17.710 align:middle line:84% and actually step back from taking on as many hours 00:46:17.710 --> 00:46:20.230 align:middle line:84% for my day job, as soon as I can. 00:46:20.230 --> 00:46:25.540 align:middle line:84% I'm already in the strategy process of starting 00:46:25.540 --> 00:46:27.610 align:middle line:90% to build a salary for myself. 00:46:27.610 --> 00:46:29.560 align:middle line:90% There's the money-- 00:46:29.560 --> 00:46:31.747 align:middle line:84% I know that the money is there, but I simply 00:46:31.747 --> 00:46:33.580 align:middle line:84% have never taken a paycheck from my company, 00:46:33.580 --> 00:46:37.757 align:middle line:84% because I want that to build up as much as I can before I start 00:46:37.757 --> 00:46:39.340 align:middle line:84% living off of it and being able to pay 00:46:39.340 --> 00:46:41.590 align:middle line:90% my staff in a fair manner. 00:46:41.590 --> 00:46:45.430 align:middle line:84% So I'm hoping as soon as next year Curious will 00:46:45.430 --> 00:46:51.660 align:middle line:84% be not only my non-profit book company, but also my career. 00:46:51.660 --> 00:46:54.040 align:middle line:90% So I'm going to-- 00:46:54.040 --> 00:46:54.850 align:middle line:90% it's scary. 00:46:54.850 --> 00:46:56.680 align:middle line:84% You have to take that risk and just trust 00:46:56.680 --> 00:46:59.050 align:middle line:84% that the sales will keep coming, and that you'll still 00:46:59.050 --> 00:47:00.967 align:middle line:84% be interested in this work, even though you're 00:47:00.967 --> 00:47:02.860 align:middle line:90% doing more hours of it. 00:47:02.860 --> 00:47:06.880 align:middle line:84% But I'm not too scared about the interest part. 00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:09.160 align:middle line:84% Art books and books in general are my passion. 00:47:09.160 --> 00:47:11.110 align:middle line:84% I love doing the layout and design, 00:47:11.110 --> 00:47:15.370 align:middle line:84% and I'm really excited to make that transition soon. 00:47:15.370 --> 00:47:19.180 align:middle line:84% I'm young right now, and I'm able to do a day job 00:47:19.180 --> 00:47:21.310 align:middle line:84% and then do a little bit of editing on the side. 00:47:21.310 --> 00:47:24.400 align:middle line:84% My desk job does have a lot of downtime, 00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:26.080 align:middle line:84% so I've been lucky that way-- that I 00:47:26.080 --> 00:47:29.883 align:middle line:84% can whip out my laptop or my iPad and do double duty. 00:47:29.883 --> 00:47:31.300 align:middle line:84% But I'm getting to the point where 00:47:31.300 --> 00:47:34.345 align:middle line:84% I want to put more focus in the company. 00:47:34.345 --> 00:47:38.270 align:middle line:84% REBECCA TRAWICK: OK, so I wanted to ask one final question. 00:47:38.270 --> 00:47:42.350 align:middle line:84% So what are you reading, watching, listening to-- 00:47:42.350 --> 00:47:46.340 align:middle line:84% podcasts, book, film, music, et cetera-- 00:47:46.340 --> 00:47:48.140 align:middle line:90% that is just feeding you? 00:47:48.140 --> 00:47:52.235 align:middle line:84% And also is there an artist or group of artists-- 00:47:52.235 --> 00:47:53.610 align:middle line:84% I think I know the answer maybe-- 00:47:53.610 --> 00:47:56.993 align:middle line:84% but whose work you'd like to amplify? 00:47:56.993 --> 00:47:58.160 align:middle line:90% REBECCA USTRELL: Absolutely. 00:47:58.160 --> 00:48:01.940 align:middle line:84% So to unwind, the things that I indulge in 00:48:01.940 --> 00:48:05.095 align:middle line:90% are surprisingly also art books. 00:48:05.095 --> 00:48:07.220 align:middle line:84% People probably think that I would get tired of it, 00:48:07.220 --> 00:48:09.530 align:middle line:84% but it's truly my passion, and I love doing it. 00:48:09.530 --> 00:48:15.470 align:middle line:84% So I recently have been trying to get into stuff that I'm not 00:48:15.470 --> 00:48:19.970 align:middle line:84% used to looking at, like maybe like skate culture photography 00:48:19.970 --> 00:48:21.060 align:middle line:90% in the UK. 00:48:21.060 --> 00:48:24.363 align:middle line:84% So I recently hit up a creator over there, 00:48:24.363 --> 00:48:25.280 align:middle line:90% and-- what's his name? 00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:27.710 align:middle line:84% It's called Futurist Pictures, so I've 00:48:27.710 --> 00:48:31.370 align:middle line:84% been indulging in Futurist Pictures zines. 00:48:31.370 --> 00:48:33.635 align:middle line:84% They're all film photography of skate culture, 00:48:33.635 --> 00:48:37.640 align:middle line:84% and when I was growing up in the high desert, 00:48:37.640 --> 00:48:41.017 align:middle line:84% we used to drive down to the Vans skate park in Ontario. 00:48:41.017 --> 00:48:43.100 align:middle line:84% So even though I was never great at skateboarding, 00:48:43.100 --> 00:48:45.468 align:middle line:84% I've always been really into the culture and watching 00:48:45.468 --> 00:48:46.760 align:middle line:90% skating and that kind of thing. 00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:51.090 align:middle line:84% So I do want to give them a shout out. 00:48:51.090 --> 00:48:53.730 align:middle line:84% I'm one of those people that binge watches stuff on working, 00:48:53.730 --> 00:48:57.650 align:middle line:84% so I've just been like watching Cold Case Files, to be honest. 00:48:57.650 --> 00:48:59.570 align:middle line:84% It's just like, oh, and then what. 00:48:59.570 --> 00:49:02.738 align:middle line:84% I feel like it just gets my mind jogging, like all of a sudden 00:49:02.738 --> 00:49:04.280 align:middle line:84% there will be something that happens, 00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:05.320 align:middle line:90% and I'm like, oh, yeah. 00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:08.930 align:middle line:84% So it will keep me up and sharp while I'm editing. 00:49:08.930 --> 00:49:10.910 align:middle line:90% But I also follow the-- 00:49:10.910 --> 00:49:14.750 align:middle line:84% I listen and follow this podcast called Here Be Monsters. 00:49:14.750 --> 00:49:18.080 align:middle line:84% I think it's through NPR, but it is an independent project, 00:49:18.080 --> 00:49:21.330 align:middle line:84% and they do a summer art exchange globally. 00:49:21.330 --> 00:49:26.150 align:middle line:84% So every year they have artists send in their work-- 00:49:26.150 --> 00:49:29.227 align:middle line:84% well, they have artists submit an artwork virtually 00:49:29.227 --> 00:49:29.810 align:middle line:90% through email. 00:49:29.810 --> 00:49:31.935 align:middle line:84% And then they'll pair you up with someone else that 00:49:31.935 --> 00:49:34.820 align:middle line:84% has similar interests, and you'll basically 00:49:34.820 --> 00:49:36.150 align:middle line:90% mail your art to each other. 00:49:36.150 --> 00:49:38.978 align:middle line:84% So every year I receive art from someone that I've never met, 00:49:38.978 --> 00:49:40.520 align:middle line:84% and you can put in your preferences-- 00:49:40.520 --> 00:49:42.520 align:middle line:84% like do you want zines, do you want a sculpture, 00:49:42.520 --> 00:49:44.810 align:middle line:84% do you want a painting, do you want a letter. 00:49:44.810 --> 00:49:48.350 align:middle line:84% One time I got a five-page short story handwritten 00:49:48.350 --> 00:49:51.080 align:middle line:84% from a Cornell University student. 00:49:51.080 --> 00:49:55.630 align:middle line:84% And then this year I got a zine from someone in Arkansas, 00:49:55.630 --> 00:49:58.130 align:middle line:84% so you really never know what you're going to get with that. 00:49:58.130 --> 00:50:01.100 align:middle line:84% And they focus on offbeat topics, 00:50:01.100 --> 00:50:07.630 align:middle line:84% and they usually focus on metaphysical topics-- 00:50:07.630 --> 00:50:09.370 align:middle line:84% just anything that you wouldn't really 00:50:09.370 --> 00:50:13.750 align:middle line:90% see normally in podcasting or-- 00:50:13.750 --> 00:50:14.890 align:middle line:90% it's not very traditional. 00:50:14.890 --> 00:50:15.950 align:middle line:90% It's a very loose form. 00:50:15.950 --> 00:50:20.320 align:middle line:84% They heavily reliant on indie musicians and sound engineers 00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:22.900 align:middle line:84% to make the experience a little more and ASMR, 00:50:22.900 --> 00:50:25.660 align:middle line:90% so I'm into that stuff, too. 00:50:25.660 --> 00:50:32.170 align:middle line:84% There's this new art book store opening in downtown Upland 00:50:32.170 --> 00:50:34.240 align:middle line:90% called Curated Chronicles. 00:50:34.240 --> 00:50:35.890 align:middle line:84% A friend of mine, Melanie Walden, 00:50:35.890 --> 00:50:37.960 align:middle line:90% will be opening that in October. 00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:39.700 align:middle line:84% So you can actually follow her Instagram 00:50:39.700 --> 00:50:41.980 align:middle line:84% to see the update on the opening of that store. 00:50:41.980 --> 00:50:43.600 align:middle line:90% Super excited about it. 00:50:43.600 --> 00:50:46.090 align:middle line:84% She's one of our wholesale accounts, 00:50:46.090 --> 00:50:48.220 align:middle line:84% so she's definitely familiar with our work. 00:50:48.220 --> 00:50:50.320 align:middle line:84% She'll be carrying our stuff, and she's 00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:51.928 align:middle line:84% totally refurbished this building 00:50:51.928 --> 00:50:54.220 align:middle line:84% and has murals being installed right now, so I'm really 00:50:54.220 --> 00:50:55.840 align:middle line:90% excited about that store. 00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:58.450 align:middle line:90% And Artlands over in Redlands-- 00:50:58.450 --> 00:51:00.610 align:middle line:90% also a friend of mine, Daniel. 00:51:00.610 --> 00:51:03.480 align:middle line:84% Similar store, but they also have an art gallery, 00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:06.220 align:middle line:84% and that's in downtown Redlands and walking distance 00:51:06.220 --> 00:51:08.507 align:middle line:90% between all the shops and stuff. 00:51:08.507 --> 00:51:10.340 align:middle line:84% REBECCA TRAWICK: Thank you so much, Rebecca. 00:51:10.340 --> 00:51:13.080 align:middle line:84% We really appreciate you spending time with us today. 00:51:13.080 --> 00:51:15.398 align:middle line:84% It was wonderful to hear about your [INAUDIBLE].. 00:51:15.398 --> 00:51:16.940 align:middle line:84% REBECCA USTRELL: My note from my mom. 00:51:16.940 --> 00:51:19.253 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mom. 00:51:19.253 --> 00:51:20.420 align:middle line:90% REBECCA TRAWICK: Very sweet. 00:51:20.420 --> 00:51:22.580 align:middle line:84% REBECCA USTRELL: My mom just graduated from 性视界, 00:51:22.580 --> 00:51:22.910 align:middle line:90% so-- 00:51:22.910 --> 00:51:24.290 align:middle line:90% REBECCA TRAWICK: Oh, congrats. 00:51:24.290 --> 00:51:24.790 align:middle line:90% Bravo. 00:51:24.790 --> 00:51:27.260 align:middle line:90% 00:51:27.260 --> 00:51:28.603 align:middle line:90% REBECCA USTRELL: Thank you. 00:51:28.603 --> 00:51:30.020 align:middle line:84% REBECCA TRAWICK: So I think Romney 00:51:30.020 --> 00:51:32.228 align:middle line:84% is going to close us out and give us a few reminders. 00:51:32.228 --> 00:51:36.260 align:middle line:84% But again, please join me in thanking Rebecca for spending 00:51:36.260 --> 00:51:37.530 align:middle line:90% some time with us today. 00:51:37.530 --> 00:51:39.735 align:middle line:84% And thank you all for joining us as well. 00:51:39.735 --> 00:51:41.360 align:middle line:84% ROMAN STOLLENWERK: Of course, we wanted 00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:45.428 align:middle line:84% to thank you for your participation and your support. 00:51:45.428 --> 00:51:46.970 align:middle line:84% And we also wanted to mention that we 00:51:46.970 --> 00:51:49.130 align:middle line:84% have a quick online survey that will 00:51:49.130 --> 00:51:51.980 align:middle line:84% help us evaluate our online programming as we 00:51:51.980 --> 00:51:53.570 align:middle line:90% plan our future programs. 00:51:53.570 --> 00:51:57.320 align:middle line:84% So that's the tiny URL that you see on the screen now-- 00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:01.490 align:middle line:90% tinyurl.com/wignallfall20. 00:52:01.490 --> 00:52:03.998 align:middle line:84% We also would encourage you to visit our website, 00:52:03.998 --> 00:52:08.390 align:middle line:90% www.chaffey.edu/wignall. 00:52:08.390 --> 00:52:10.880 align:middle line:84% We also wanted to mention if you're 00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:12.770 align:middle line:84% interested in learning more about Native Land 00:52:12.770 --> 00:52:14.690 align:middle line:84% Acknowledgment, there are a couple of websites 00:52:14.690 --> 00:52:18.060 align:middle line:84% on the screen that you can check out to get more information. 00:52:18.060 --> 00:52:18.910 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:52:18.910 --> 00:52:21.935 align:middle line:84% REBECCA USTRELL: Thank you, it was a pleasure. 00:52:21.935 --> 00:52:23.310 align:middle line:84% REBECCA TRAWICK: Thanks everyone. 00:52:23.310 --> 00:52:25.100 align:middle line:90% Stay well. 00:52:25.100 --> 00:52:36.000 align:middle line:90%