WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:10.840 align:middle line:90% [MUSIC PLAYING] 00:00:10.840 --> 00:00:12.170 align:middle line:90% Welcome, everybody. 00:00:12.170 --> 00:00:15.190 align:middle line:84% Thank you for joining us today as we 00:00:15.190 --> 00:00:18.250 align:middle line:84% present Micah Wood as part of the Wignall Museum's Home 00:00:18.250 --> 00:00:21.470 align:middle line:84% Edition, a series of curated artists talks, workshops, 00:00:21.470 --> 00:00:24.620 align:middle line:84% and discussions featuring artists and cultural workers. 00:00:24.620 --> 00:00:25.750 align:middle line:90% My name is Rebecca Trawick. 00:00:25.750 --> 00:00:29.350 align:middle line:84% I'm the director and curator of the Wignall Museum. 00:00:29.350 --> 00:00:31.270 align:middle line:84% The Wignall Museum is a teaching museum, 00:00:31.270 --> 00:00:34.750 align:middle line:84% an interdisciplinary art space that introduces 性视界 00:00:34.750 --> 00:00:37.810 align:middle line:84% students, 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00:01:05.390 --> 00:01:05.960 align:middle line:90% Hello. 00:01:05.960 --> 00:01:07.740 align:middle line:90% My name is Roman Stollenwerk. 00:01:07.740 --> 00:01:09.440 align:middle line:84% I'm the assistant curator at the Wignall 00:01:09.440 --> 00:01:11.180 align:middle line:90% Museum of Contemporary Art. 00:01:11.180 --> 00:01:14.210 align:middle line:84% Please note we are recording all sessions of Home Edition. 00:01:14.210 --> 00:01:16.190 align:middle line:84% All recorded programs in Home Edition 00:01:16.190 --> 00:01:18.200 align:middle line:84% will be transcribed and captioned. 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:23.420 align:middle line:84% Please visit our website at www.chaffey.edu/wignall 00:01:23.420 --> 00:01:25.370 align:middle line:90% to access recordings. 00:01:25.370 --> 00:01:27.890 align:middle line:84% We will post announcements to our email subscribers 00:01:27.890 --> 00:01:31.860 align:middle line:84% and social media when the videos are available on our site. 00:01:31.860 --> 00:01:34.126 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:01:34.126 --> 00:01:35.190 align:middle line:90% And hi, everyone. 00:01:35.190 --> 00:01:36.230 align:middle line:90% My name is Andy Hadle. 00:01:36.230 --> 00:01:38.990 align:middle line:84% I'm the preparator at the museum and the studio tech 00:01:38.990 --> 00:01:41.870 align:middle line:84% for the studio arts department here at 性视界. 00:01:41.870 --> 00:01:43.760 align:middle line:84% Along with Roman and Rebecca, I'm 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:46.580 align:middle line:84% going to be assisting with today's Zoom session. 00:01:46.580 --> 00:01:50.777 align:middle line:84% Let me briefly share a quick breakdown of today's program. 00:01:50.777 --> 00:01:52.610 align:middle line:84% In a moment, we're going to have Micah Wood, 00:01:52.610 --> 00:01:55.560 align:middle line:84% and he will present for about a half an hour or so. 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:57.470 align:middle line:90% Thanks Roman and Andy. 00:01:57.470 --> 00:01:59.390 align:middle line:84% So today, we're pleased to introduce you 00:01:59.390 --> 00:02:00.800 align:middle line:90% all to Micah Wood. 00:02:00.800 --> 00:02:03.660 align:middle line:84% Micah is an artist living and working in Los Angeles. 00:02:03.660 --> 00:02:06.780 align:middle line:84% He works in a variety of media, including painting, sculpture, 00:02:06.780 --> 00:02:08.060 align:middle line:90% and performance. 00:02:08.060 --> 00:02:10.430 align:middle line:84% The imagery found throughout Wood's paintings 00:02:10.430 --> 00:02:13.760 align:middle line:84% oscillate between found images, and advertising, 00:02:13.760 --> 00:02:17.510 align:middle line:84% to automatic drawings, and observational sketches. 00:02:17.510 --> 00:02:20.120 align:middle line:84% Wood's paintings lie in the nexus of abstraction 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:23.570 align:middle line:84% and figuration, and seek to create a distinctive vision 00:02:23.570 --> 00:02:25.100 align:middle line:90% of his environment. 00:02:25.100 --> 00:02:28.020 align:middle line:84% He was a co-director of City Limits Gallery in Oakland, 00:02:28.020 --> 00:02:33.260 align:middle line:84% California from 2016 to 2018 where he organized several solo 00:02:33.260 --> 00:02:35.210 align:middle line:90% and group exhibitions. 00:02:35.210 --> 00:02:38.240 align:middle line:84% Wood's work has been shown in solo and group exhibitions 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:42.470 align:middle line:84% in Canada, Mexico, Russia, France, and California. 00:02:42.470 --> 00:02:44.930 align:middle line:84% Please see his full biography in the program guide 00:02:44.930 --> 00:02:46.400 align:middle line:90% on our website. 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:50.160 align:middle line:84% Micah also has a special guest joining us today, Arthur Wise. 00:02:50.160 --> 00:02:53.130 align:middle line:84% So he'll introduce him during his presentation. 00:02:53.130 --> 00:02:56.240 align:middle line:84% So please join me in welcoming Micah. 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:57.990 align:middle line:90% Hello, everyone. 00:02:57.990 --> 00:02:59.555 align:middle line:90% Nice to e-meet you. 00:02:59.555 --> 00:03:02.150 align:middle line:90% 00:03:02.150 --> 00:03:02.650 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:03:02.650 --> 00:03:07.510 align:middle line:84% Thanks for the gracious introduction, Rebecca. 00:03:07.510 --> 00:03:11.620 align:middle line:84% I'm really excited for this next hour. 00:03:11.620 --> 00:03:14.930 align:middle line:90% I think this will be really fun. 00:03:14.930 --> 00:03:20.930 align:middle line:84% And also I've been teaching I'd say for the past two years. 00:03:20.930 --> 00:03:26.020 align:middle line:84% I teach in the visual and performing arts department 00:03:26.020 --> 00:03:29.680 align:middle line:90% and you can find me there. 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:37.010 align:middle line:84% And , I guess, this came about because I assign, 00:03:37.010 --> 00:03:43.040 align:middle line:84% as my final project, a zine for students to do. 00:03:43.040 --> 00:03:47.460 align:middle line:84% And just in terms of the assignment, 00:03:47.460 --> 00:03:49.130 align:middle line:84% I think it's a really fun assignment 00:03:49.130 --> 00:03:58.593 align:middle line:84% that the students can really make their own while combining 00:03:58.593 --> 00:04:01.010 align:middle line:84% everything that we've talked about throughout the semester 00:04:01.010 --> 00:04:04.050 align:middle line:90% and fundamentals of 2D design. 00:04:04.050 --> 00:04:11.820 align:middle line:84% So it's a chance for them to really make 00:04:11.820 --> 00:04:17.279 align:middle line:84% something of their own and can gift to other students 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:22.560 align:middle line:84% in the class and give to their family and friends. 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:24.330 align:middle line:90% All right. 00:04:24.330 --> 00:04:28.290 align:middle line:84% The Zine or how to make a rad zine. 00:04:28.290 --> 00:04:30.760 align:middle line:90% So what is a zine? 00:04:30.760 --> 00:04:35.400 align:middle line:84% A zine short for magazine or fanzine 00:04:35.400 --> 00:04:39.480 align:middle line:84% is most commonly like a small circulation self-published work 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:44.160 align:middle line:84% of original or appropriated text and images usually 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:47.610 align:middle line:90% reproduced via a photocopier. 00:04:47.610 --> 00:04:50.670 align:middle line:84% Usually zines are the product of a single person 00:04:50.670 --> 00:04:54.060 align:middle line:90% or a small group. 00:04:54.060 --> 00:04:58.480 align:middle line:84% Zines are typically self-published booklets 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:01.380 align:middle line:84% sold cheaply or traded amongst friends 00:05:01.380 --> 00:05:04.035 align:middle line:84% or in this case, my students amongst their peers. 00:05:04.035 --> 00:05:06.650 align:middle line:90% 00:05:06.650 --> 00:05:12.960 align:middle line:84% It's like a part of a DIY, do it yourself kind of a subculture. 00:05:12.960 --> 00:05:17.910 align:middle line:84% And in historical context, zines have 00:05:17.910 --> 00:05:21.480 align:middle line:84% been integral to various subcultures including, 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:23.970 align:middle line:84% but not limited to science fiction, 00:05:23.970 --> 00:05:30.360 align:middle line:84% punk music, third wave feminism and the Riot Grrrl movement. 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:34.590 align:middle line:84% So I see zines as an opportunity for students 00:05:34.590 --> 00:05:42.630 align:middle line:84% to serve the intersection of maker, expert, and teacher. 00:05:42.630 --> 00:05:46.500 align:middle line:84% It's always fun for me to get the zine back from them 00:05:46.500 --> 00:05:52.190 align:middle line:84% and learn about either something that they're interested in I 00:05:52.190 --> 00:05:54.960 align:middle line:90% had no idea existed. 00:05:54.960 --> 00:05:57.620 align:middle line:90% Like how to be a-- 00:05:57.620 --> 00:06:06.860 align:middle line:84% one student did a zine about being like a car influencer. 00:06:06.860 --> 00:06:10.640 align:middle line:84% Like you work on cars and then you 00:06:10.640 --> 00:06:16.040 align:middle line:84% can be a popular YouTube with car people, I guess. 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:16.700 align:middle line:90% I don't know. 00:06:16.700 --> 00:06:18.980 align:middle line:90% Or how to fly a drone. 00:06:18.980 --> 00:06:21.740 align:middle line:84% Things I don't know anything about 00:06:21.740 --> 00:06:25.460 align:middle line:90% and it's so fun to learn about. 00:06:25.460 --> 00:06:27.830 align:middle line:84% This semester, someone did a fanzine 00:06:27.830 --> 00:06:31.130 align:middle line:84% about the film Donnie Darko, which I thought 00:06:31.130 --> 00:06:34.170 align:middle line:90% was really cool. 00:06:34.170 --> 00:06:36.320 align:middle line:84% So it's just all across the board 00:06:36.320 --> 00:06:41.210 align:middle line:84% and that's why-- that's the fun of it, is they become teacher 00:06:41.210 --> 00:06:43.790 align:middle line:84% and I become the student in a lot of ways. 00:06:43.790 --> 00:06:46.670 align:middle line:90% 00:06:46.670 --> 00:06:48.160 align:middle line:84% So students can tell their stories 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:51.550 align:middle line:84% and share their knowledge through both images and text, 00:06:51.550 --> 00:06:55.390 align:middle line:84% and share this learning in a low cost easy produced fashion. 00:06:55.390 --> 00:06:59.260 align:middle line:90% 00:06:59.260 --> 00:07:02.920 align:middle line:84% Zines first emerged in the United States 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:06.340 align:middle line:84% where the photocopier was invented, 00:07:06.340 --> 00:07:11.800 align:middle line:84% and zines have always been more numerous here in this country. 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:15.160 align:middle line:84% They were first created in the science fiction 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:21.250 align:middle line:84% fandoms of the 1930s taking their name from fanzine. 00:07:21.250 --> 00:07:25.440 align:middle line:84% It's just short for fan magazine. 00:07:25.440 --> 00:07:33.510 align:middle line:84% So these were born out of fans making these fan magazines 00:07:33.510 --> 00:07:41.930 align:middle line:84% for Star Trek, which is I believe a series of books, 00:07:41.930 --> 00:07:46.440 align:middle line:84% I think before the television show if I'm not mistaken. 00:07:46.440 --> 00:07:47.670 align:middle line:90% So these kind of. 00:07:47.670 --> 00:07:48.170 align:middle line:90% yeah. 00:07:48.170 --> 00:07:50.270 align:middle line:84% Just people that were really into science fiction 00:07:50.270 --> 00:07:53.960 align:middle line:84% and really into these science fiction Star Trek books 00:07:53.960 --> 00:08:03.140 align:middle line:84% decided to write their own kind of homages to their books. 00:08:03.140 --> 00:08:06.740 align:middle line:84% And that's kind of some people believe that. 00:08:06.740 --> 00:08:09.530 align:middle line:84% That's kind of the origin story, if you will. 00:08:09.530 --> 00:08:11.090 align:middle line:90% And it wasn't just Star Trek. 00:08:11.090 --> 00:08:14.870 align:middle line:90% This is from May, June, 1940. 00:08:14.870 --> 00:08:16.640 align:middle line:84% Some people believe this potentially 00:08:16.640 --> 00:08:23.360 align:middle line:84% is one of the first kind of fanzines, which I love. 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:25.160 align:middle line:90% I like science fiction. 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:28.410 align:middle line:84% But it's again, it's like just like learning about new things 00:08:28.410 --> 00:08:32.809 align:middle line:84% I think is like in a very low cost kind of way is something 00:08:32.809 --> 00:08:33.844 align:middle line:90% really cool about zines. 00:08:33.844 --> 00:08:37.700 align:middle line:90% 00:08:37.700 --> 00:08:42.080 align:middle line:84% I'm going to butcher the Chinese Dazibao, or kind 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:45.570 align:middle line:90% of big character. 00:08:45.570 --> 00:08:46.340 align:middle line:90% I can't read that. 00:08:46.340 --> 00:08:48.420 align:middle line:90% Can anyone else? 00:08:48.420 --> 00:08:50.180 align:middle line:90% Maybe it's just on my screen. 00:08:50.180 --> 00:08:57.090 align:middle line:84% Anyway, these were kind of in the '60s, 00:08:57.090 --> 00:08:59.280 align:middle line:90% these kind of protest posters. 00:08:59.280 --> 00:09:04.800 align:middle line:84% And you can kind of see on the wall here, 00:09:04.800 --> 00:09:07.030 align:middle line:90% these kind of big characters. 00:09:07.030 --> 00:09:10.510 align:middle line:84% The pro-democracy movement happening in China. 00:09:10.510 --> 00:09:14.895 align:middle line:84% So this is kind of an extension of-- 00:09:14.895 --> 00:09:20.810 align:middle line:84% these are maybe huge zines in a way. 00:09:20.810 --> 00:09:25.100 align:middle line:84% And kind of going into even like a more different kind 00:09:25.100 --> 00:09:31.820 align:middle line:84% of substrate in terms of a poster or a flyer even. 00:09:31.820 --> 00:09:41.760 align:middle line:84% And so to me, I think zine culture also kind of alludes 00:09:41.760 --> 00:09:47.430 align:middle line:84% itself to a wide variety of materials, including 00:09:47.430 --> 00:09:53.640 align:middle line:84% posters and wheat pasting, kind of all about that. 00:09:53.640 --> 00:09:57.150 align:middle line:84% So yeah. zines are an incredibly powerful method 00:09:57.150 --> 00:10:01.080 align:middle line:84% of sharing stories and communicating ideas. 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:02.910 align:middle line:84% Part of this comes from the format, 00:10:02.910 --> 00:10:07.440 align:middle line:84% which feels more casual than a paper or a presentation, 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:12.780 align:middle line:84% and less time intensive than a full on comic book. 00:10:12.780 --> 00:10:15.735 align:middle line:84% The tactile nature of drawing and creating the book 00:10:15.735 --> 00:10:17.400 align:middle line:90% is satisfying. 00:10:17.400 --> 00:10:19.590 align:middle line:84% Putting pen to paper, and cutting, 00:10:19.590 --> 00:10:23.550 align:middle line:84% and folding to make multiples is easy to do 00:10:23.550 --> 00:10:26.910 align:middle line:90% and quite accessible. 00:10:26.910 --> 00:10:30.540 align:middle line:84% And that's also why I think zines 00:10:30.540 --> 00:10:33.810 align:middle line:84% are such a great thing to do just in general, but also as 00:10:33.810 --> 00:10:34.830 align:middle line:90% an assignment. 00:10:34.830 --> 00:10:39.660 align:middle line:84% Because we are especially during this pandemic, 00:10:39.660 --> 00:10:41.880 align:middle line:90% we are on our screens. 00:10:41.880 --> 00:10:44.400 align:middle line:90% We're digital so much. 00:10:44.400 --> 00:10:48.200 align:middle line:84% It's like, when is the last time that you actually 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:53.760 align:middle line:84% put pen and paper to each other and or pencil, 00:10:53.760 --> 00:10:57.600 align:middle line:84% or colored pencil, or collage material? 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:01.650 align:middle line:84% There's something really nice about working with your hands 00:11:01.650 --> 00:11:05.834 align:middle line:84% and creating something that isn't on a screen that's 00:11:05.834 --> 00:11:09.980 align:middle line:90% completely void of pixels. 00:11:09.980 --> 00:11:12.370 align:middle line:90% All right. 00:11:12.370 --> 00:11:17.200 align:middle line:84% So one overarching, I think, commonality in the zine culture 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:18.610 align:middle line:90% is creating community. 00:11:18.610 --> 00:11:21.250 align:middle line:90% 00:11:21.250 --> 00:11:25.240 align:middle line:84% People who made and traded zines created communities 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:27.050 align:middle line:84% by having similar values, interests. 00:11:27.050 --> 00:11:28.840 align:middle line:90% And I'm all about that. 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:32.470 align:middle line:84% I think I was saying to some people before this, 00:11:32.470 --> 00:11:37.010 align:middle line:84% collaboration is such a huge part of my practice. 00:11:37.010 --> 00:11:39.340 align:middle line:84% And I think it's a really valuable thing 00:11:39.340 --> 00:11:44.230 align:middle line:84% to do in the classroom and just to do in general. 00:11:44.230 --> 00:11:49.420 align:middle line:84% I think it can give results that are 00:11:49.420 --> 00:11:52.570 align:middle line:84% way that you wouldn't expect and you might not 00:11:52.570 --> 00:11:53.920 align:middle line:90% get just by yourself. 00:11:53.920 --> 00:11:57.200 align:middle line:90% 00:11:57.200 --> 00:11:59.740 align:middle line:90% So yeah. 00:11:59.740 --> 00:12:05.680 align:middle line:84% Just an example of creating community with zines, this 00:12:05.680 --> 00:12:07.300 align:middle line:90% is maybe back in the day. 00:12:07.300 --> 00:12:10.300 align:middle line:84% But you might not have known that the girl or guy sitting 00:12:10.300 --> 00:12:14.980 align:middle line:84% next to you in class was into the band Black Flag 00:12:14.980 --> 00:12:19.540 align:middle line:84% until they saw your zine on Black Flag on your desk. 00:12:19.540 --> 00:12:22.060 align:middle line:90% And they're like, whoa, man. 00:12:22.060 --> 00:12:24.250 align:middle line:90% You're into Black Flag. 00:12:24.250 --> 00:12:25.420 align:middle line:90% Me too. 00:12:25.420 --> 00:12:31.540 align:middle line:84% Or someone sees a Riot Grrrl zine, 00:12:31.540 --> 00:12:35.290 align:middle line:84% they know that you have similar values. 00:12:35.290 --> 00:12:38.350 align:middle line:84% You're fighting the patriarchy, you're against sexism, 00:12:38.350 --> 00:12:41.500 align:middle line:84% you're against racism, you're against bigotry. 00:12:41.500 --> 00:12:45.250 align:middle line:84% All these things, that kind of Riot Grrrl movements and zines 00:12:45.250 --> 00:12:46.760 align:middle line:90% kind of stand for. 00:12:46.760 --> 00:12:54.430 align:middle line:84% And so just little ways that zines kind of make community. 00:12:54.430 --> 00:12:58.465 align:middle line:84% So punk zines kind of followed the same guidelines 00:12:58.465 --> 00:12:59.830 align:middle line:90% as regular zines. 00:12:59.830 --> 00:13:02.170 align:middle line:84% They were self written, they were self published, 00:13:02.170 --> 00:13:04.480 align:middle line:84% they were self distributed, and were 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:07.150 align:middle line:90% made by fans of punk music. 00:13:07.150 --> 00:13:09.580 align:middle line:84% But they kind of had a more narrow focus 00:13:09.580 --> 00:13:14.470 align:middle line:84% that included punk literature, reviews of albums, 00:13:14.470 --> 00:13:19.210 align:middle line:84% or shows, gossip, social commentary, and news. 00:13:19.210 --> 00:13:21.910 align:middle line:90% Slash. 00:13:21.910 --> 00:13:24.940 align:middle line:84% Slash was a punk rock related fanzine 00:13:24.940 --> 00:13:28.110 align:middle line:84% published by Steve Samiof and Melanie Nissen 00:13:28.110 --> 00:13:33.040 align:middle line:84% in the United States from 1977 to 1980. 00:13:33.040 --> 00:13:35.050 align:middle line:84% The magazine was a large format tabloid 00:13:35.050 --> 00:13:39.340 align:middle line:90% focused on the LA punk scene. 00:13:39.340 --> 00:13:44.500 align:middle line:84% It was a pretty relatively wide distribution punk scene. 00:13:44.500 --> 00:13:49.480 align:middle line:84% And Slash helped kind of bring the LA underground scene 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:52.100 align:middle line:84% to the attention of the rest of the world. 00:13:52.100 --> 00:13:54.700 align:middle line:84% And what's really cool about Slash is actually now, 00:13:54.700 --> 00:13:59.290 align:middle line:84% the full archive is available to download 00:13:59.290 --> 00:14:02.370 align:middle line:90% and to look at online for free. 00:14:02.370 --> 00:14:04.890 align:middle line:84% Raymond Pettibone is kind of synonymous also 00:14:04.890 --> 00:14:06.090 align:middle line:90% with Black Flag. 00:14:06.090 --> 00:14:09.510 align:middle line:84% And any art historians and artists out there 00:14:09.510 --> 00:14:12.870 align:middle line:90% will know that name. 00:14:12.870 --> 00:14:15.690 align:middle line:84% He's known for his comic like drawings 00:14:15.690 --> 00:14:19.280 align:middle line:84% with disturbing, ironic, or kind of ambiguous text. 00:14:19.280 --> 00:14:22.320 align:middle line:84% Pettibones' subject matter sometimes violent 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:24.750 align:middle line:90% antiauthoritarian. 00:14:24.750 --> 00:14:28.020 align:middle line:84% From the late 1970s to the mid 1980s, 00:14:28.020 --> 00:14:32.190 align:middle line:84% he was closely associated with the punk rock band Black Flag 00:14:32.190 --> 00:14:35.800 align:middle line:84% and the record label SST, both of which 00:14:35.800 --> 00:14:37.425 align:middle line:84% were founded by his older brother Greg. 00:14:37.425 --> 00:14:39.870 align:middle line:90% 00:14:39.870 --> 00:14:41.620 align:middle line:84% And his drawings come out by the hundreds. 00:14:41.620 --> 00:14:44.020 align:middle line:84% He started to publish them as limited edition 00:14:44.020 --> 00:14:50.690 align:middle line:84% [INAUDIBLE] booklets, otherwise known as zines, in 1978. 00:14:50.690 --> 00:14:56.270 align:middle line:84% These are considered the some of his ideas and aesthetics. 00:14:56.270 --> 00:14:56.787 align:middle line:90% And yeah. 00:14:56.787 --> 00:14:57.620 align:middle line:90% They're really good. 00:14:57.620 --> 00:14:59.000 align:middle line:90% Check them out. 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:02.212 align:middle line:84% I don't have a picture for this person 00:15:02.212 --> 00:15:03.420 align:middle line:90% I'm going to talk about next. 00:15:03.420 --> 00:15:07.040 align:middle line:84% But he would have been publishing these as well. 00:15:07.040 --> 00:15:12.920 align:middle line:84% His name is V. Vale and he founded the publishing company 00:15:12.920 --> 00:15:17.360 align:middle line:90% RE/Search or research. 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:22.910 align:middle line:84% And he also founded the magazine Search and Destroy. 00:15:22.910 --> 00:15:29.420 align:middle line:84% He is very instrumental in the punk zine world. 00:15:29.420 --> 00:15:30.650 align:middle line:90% I mean, yeah. 00:15:30.650 --> 00:15:36.800 align:middle line:84% You can't really talk about punk zines in LA and the Bay Area 00:15:36.800 --> 00:15:39.290 align:middle line:84% and around the country without talking 00:15:39.290 --> 00:15:42.200 align:middle line:90% about V. Vale and RE/Search. 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:45.650 align:middle line:84% But he also published people like William S. Burrows, 00:15:45.650 --> 00:15:50.330 align:middle line:84% and JG Ballard, Genesis P-Orridge, 00:15:50.330 --> 00:15:53.100 align:middle line:90% and he's still around today. 00:15:53.100 --> 00:15:58.340 align:middle line:84% You can find him usually in a non pandemic world at art book 00:15:58.340 --> 00:16:01.530 align:middle line:84% fairs which his booth for RE/Search. 00:16:01.530 --> 00:16:03.470 align:middle line:90% He's quite the character. 00:16:03.470 --> 00:16:07.660 align:middle line:84% These are good examples of kind of what 00:16:07.660 --> 00:16:09.830 align:middle line:84% you want to kind of talk about it 00:16:09.830 --> 00:16:13.250 align:middle line:84% in terms of the aesthetics of zines. 00:16:13.250 --> 00:16:15.270 align:middle line:90% Look at what's going on here. 00:16:15.270 --> 00:16:23.660 align:middle line:84% There's not really a ton of fine detail. 00:16:23.660 --> 00:16:28.010 align:middle line:84% It's more about kind of getting it out there as quickly and as 00:16:28.010 --> 00:16:29.160 align:middle line:90% cheaply as possible. 00:16:29.160 --> 00:16:33.560 align:middle line:84% These are appropriated newspaper cutouts 00:16:33.560 --> 00:16:38.240 align:middle line:84% and appropriated images that are kind of collaged 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:41.210 align:middle line:84% onto a piece of paper and photocopied. 00:16:41.210 --> 00:16:41.930 align:middle line:90% And then boom. 00:16:41.930 --> 00:16:42.912 align:middle line:90% It's done. 00:16:42.912 --> 00:16:48.710 align:middle line:84% So these are what zines used to be like 00:16:48.710 --> 00:16:53.060 align:middle line:84% and still are and will continue to be. 00:16:53.060 --> 00:16:57.740 align:middle line:84% Riot Grrrl zines were started in Washington DC, kind of Riot 00:16:57.740 --> 00:17:01.500 align:middle line:90% Grrrl Publishing in 1992. 00:17:01.500 --> 00:17:05.420 align:middle line:84% Riot Grrrl zines often describe issues 00:17:05.420 --> 00:17:11.569 align:middle line:84% such as sexism, mental illness, homophobia, and vegetarianism. 00:17:11.569 --> 00:17:15.800 align:middle line:84% One sort of motto that Riot Grrrl zines had is the personal 00:17:15.800 --> 00:17:18.770 align:middle line:90% is always political. 00:17:18.770 --> 00:17:21.950 align:middle line:84% And I really I think that's a great motto 00:17:21.950 --> 00:17:24.800 align:middle line:84% and kind of something that can go beyond zines. 00:17:24.800 --> 00:17:30.230 align:middle line:84% Around the same time, but a little bit before, Bikini Kill, 00:17:30.230 --> 00:17:36.770 align:middle line:84% the band, you might have heard of Kathleen Hanna started 00:17:36.770 --> 00:17:40.970 align:middle line:84% with Kathi Wilcox and Billy Boredom Karren. 00:17:40.970 --> 00:17:45.920 align:middle line:84% Also it was started as a zine first Bikini Kill. 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:50.490 align:middle line:84% And then from that, actually the band formed. 00:17:50.490 --> 00:17:55.070 align:middle line:84% So given out at gigs, and mailed to an ever increasing network 00:17:55.070 --> 00:18:00.230 align:middle line:84% of girls, the aesthetics of the earliest Riot Grrrl zines 00:18:00.230 --> 00:18:03.110 align:middle line:90% was sexy and subversive. 00:18:03.110 --> 00:18:04.910 align:middle line:84% But kind of what tends to be forgotten 00:18:04.910 --> 00:18:10.970 align:middle line:84% is the highlighted kind of underground cultural figures. 00:18:10.970 --> 00:18:13.250 align:middle line:84% sometimes, they would be a kind of homage 00:18:13.250 --> 00:18:19.070 align:middle line:84% to the artist and AIDS activist David Vojnovic. 00:18:19.070 --> 00:18:26.330 align:middle line:84% I always butcher his last name, who sadly passed away. 00:18:26.330 --> 00:18:31.100 align:middle line:84% But other zines paid tribute to Audre Lorde. 00:18:31.100 --> 00:18:35.490 align:middle line:84% In a pre internet world, Riot Grrrl 00:18:35.490 --> 00:18:40.190 align:middle line:84% spread mostly by paper, flyers, stickers, and letters. 00:18:40.190 --> 00:18:42.980 align:middle line:84% Creating a kind of all girl space 00:18:42.980 --> 00:18:46.710 align:middle line:84% was a key act as was a creation of an all girl mosh pit 00:18:46.710 --> 00:18:49.330 align:middle line:90% at the front of gigs. 00:18:49.330 --> 00:18:50.060 align:middle line:90% I love this one. 00:18:50.060 --> 00:18:54.360 align:middle line:84% It's talking about how punk rock feminism rules. 00:18:54.360 --> 00:18:54.860 align:middle line:90% OK? 00:18:54.860 --> 00:18:57.560 align:middle line:84% So it's like, it's OK to be goofy. 00:18:57.560 --> 00:19:05.570 align:middle line:84% It's OK to have some pompoms and maybe 00:19:05.570 --> 00:19:10.640 align:middle line:84% bring your pompoms to the punk rock mosh pit or whatever. 00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:13.280 align:middle line:90% It's OK to be goofy and dorky. 00:19:13.280 --> 00:19:16.580 align:middle line:84% So from conventions and gigs to tiny support groups, 00:19:16.580 --> 00:19:20.510 align:middle line:84% Riot Grrrl was about building connections and solidarity 00:19:20.510 --> 00:19:22.400 align:middle line:90% between teenage girls. 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:25.760 align:middle line:84% Sometimes loosen it and sometimes tightly bonded, 00:19:25.760 --> 00:19:29.090 align:middle line:84% Riot Grrrl collectives acted as spaces for discussion 00:19:29.090 --> 00:19:31.970 align:middle line:84% and organizing as well as goofing around, and making up 00:19:31.970 --> 00:19:35.555 align:middle line:84% songs, and community produce zines. 00:19:35.555 --> 00:19:37.900 align:middle line:90% OK, a coloring book. 00:19:37.900 --> 00:19:40.370 align:middle line:84% Another great idea for a zine is a coloring book. 00:19:40.370 --> 00:19:43.660 align:middle line:84% Very simple, very straight to the point. 00:19:43.660 --> 00:19:45.240 align:middle line:90% Makes a great gift. 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:46.350 align:middle line:90% Just saying. 00:19:46.350 --> 00:19:49.760 align:middle line:84% A holiday gift to your loved ones this year. 00:19:49.760 --> 00:19:51.850 align:middle line:90% Create a coloring book zine. 00:19:51.850 --> 00:19:54.190 align:middle line:90% Why not? 00:19:54.190 --> 00:20:00.070 align:middle line:84% Great kind of example of a photocopy black and white zine 00:20:00.070 --> 00:20:01.945 align:middle line:90% where we have both-- 00:20:01.945 --> 00:20:05.230 align:middle line:90% 00:20:05.230 --> 00:20:07.240 align:middle line:84% it's a great example of both collage 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:10.870 align:middle line:84% material and hand drawn material. 00:20:10.870 --> 00:20:11.680 align:middle line:90% Look at this. 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:15.050 align:middle line:84% Nothing says expensive art book here. 00:20:15.050 --> 00:20:18.460 align:middle line:84% It says, this is [INAUDIBLE] march 00:20:18.460 --> 00:20:23.440 align:middle line:84% for women's lives, and activism, and art, and all these really 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:25.670 align:middle line:90% cool things into one zine. 00:20:25.670 --> 00:20:26.170 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:20:26.170 --> 00:20:33.310 align:middle line:84% I just love the graphicness too of zines, this very much, 00:20:33.310 --> 00:20:36.040 align:middle line:90% it's nothing to do with comics. 00:20:36.040 --> 00:20:44.180 align:middle line:84% But it does still have this kind of very like an economy 00:20:44.180 --> 00:20:47.870 align:middle line:84% of means to it of just pen and paper or pencil and paper. 00:20:47.870 --> 00:20:50.390 align:middle line:90% 00:20:50.390 --> 00:20:53.320 align:middle line:84% So here we kind of have a little bit 00:20:53.320 --> 00:20:58.240 align:middle line:84% of a teaser of kind of how we're going to be making our zines. 00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:00.250 align:middle line:84% It's kind of called a foldy zine. 00:21:00.250 --> 00:21:03.250 align:middle line:90% It's a one sheet of paper. 00:21:03.250 --> 00:21:06.260 align:middle line:84% But it will be actually eight pages. 00:21:06.260 --> 00:21:10.600 align:middle line:84% Another way is to actually, this would be a 16 page paper, 00:21:10.600 --> 00:21:11.840 align:middle line:90% but four sheets of paper. 00:21:11.840 --> 00:21:17.020 align:middle line:84% So you have this is what I do for my class. 00:21:17.020 --> 00:21:18.550 align:middle line:90% You have four sheets of paper. 00:21:18.550 --> 00:21:21.140 align:middle line:84% And it's very important you can keep the order. 00:21:21.140 --> 00:21:25.750 align:middle line:84% Otherwise, it's going to be really crazy really fast. 00:21:25.750 --> 00:21:27.380 align:middle line:84% Four sheets of paper is all you need. 00:21:27.380 --> 00:21:31.810 align:middle line:84% And then you have 16 pages of original art. 00:21:31.810 --> 00:21:35.740 align:middle line:84% And kind of when we're talking about these, 00:21:35.740 --> 00:21:40.150 align:middle line:84% we can think of this one's for example as a master copy 00:21:40.150 --> 00:21:41.840 align:middle line:90% where you don't staple it. 00:21:41.840 --> 00:21:43.660 align:middle line:84% So therefore, you can kind of keep 00:21:43.660 --> 00:21:48.380 align:middle line:84% on copying these original pages over and over again. 00:21:48.380 --> 00:21:55.780 align:middle line:84% So when you make your zine, if you want to make a multi page 00:21:55.780 --> 00:21:59.440 align:middle line:84% zine, remember to always have a master copy, 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:02.455 align:middle line:84% and then you can make copies of your master copy. 00:22:02.455 --> 00:22:07.780 align:middle line:84% They can come in all sorts of shapes, size, formats, colors, 00:22:07.780 --> 00:22:09.800 align:middle line:90% and styles. 00:22:09.800 --> 00:22:10.300 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:22:10.300 --> 00:22:11.342 align:middle line:90% Now would be a good time. 00:22:11.342 --> 00:22:16.870 align:middle line:84% I can kind of just pull up my zines I've done. 00:22:16.870 --> 00:22:20.020 align:middle line:90% 00:22:20.020 --> 00:22:24.150 align:middle line:84% So here, we have this is my first zine I ever did. 00:22:24.150 --> 00:22:33.290 align:middle line:84% I was asked to participate in a art show slash 00:22:33.290 --> 00:22:36.020 align:middle line:90% kind of zine show. 00:22:36.020 --> 00:22:41.180 align:middle line:84% And it was randomly enough at the National Gallery of Moscow 00:22:41.180 --> 00:22:42.950 align:middle line:90% in Russia. 00:22:42.950 --> 00:22:46.400 align:middle line:84% My friend Alex [INAUDIBLE] invited me to that. 00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:49.160 align:middle line:90% Thanks, Alex. 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:52.040 align:middle line:90% So yeah. 00:22:52.040 --> 00:22:55.500 align:middle line:84% She kind of left it open ended to kind of do what I wanted to. 00:22:55.500 --> 00:23:01.130 align:middle line:84% But the first half is kind of like a photo kind of diary 00:23:01.130 --> 00:23:08.040 align:middle line:84% of just the time I was living in Paris doing a residency. 00:23:08.040 --> 00:23:16.180 align:middle line:84% And so I kind of just included texts and some photos. 00:23:16.180 --> 00:23:19.220 align:middle line:90% 00:23:19.220 --> 00:23:23.100 align:middle line:84% This is a really cute cat that I saw in Morocco 00:23:23.100 --> 00:23:24.540 align:middle line:90% on top of some dried mint. 00:23:24.540 --> 00:23:29.370 align:middle line:90% 00:23:29.370 --> 00:23:37.470 align:middle line:84% And then there's documentation of previous exhibitions 00:23:37.470 --> 00:23:39.900 align:middle line:84% that I was in before this was published. 00:23:39.900 --> 00:23:46.600 align:middle line:90% 00:23:46.600 --> 00:23:47.100 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:23:47.100 --> 00:23:51.550 align:middle line:84% So it can kind of serve as both documentation as well. 00:23:51.550 --> 00:23:55.920 align:middle line:90% And what I kind of wanted to-- 00:23:55.920 --> 00:24:00.810 align:middle line:84% we'll transition into Arthur is I definitely 00:24:00.810 --> 00:24:03.420 align:middle line:84% have a background in books and zines. 00:24:03.420 --> 00:24:07.410 align:middle line:84% But my being an artist, I'm kind of more interested 00:24:07.410 --> 00:24:11.190 align:middle line:90% in art zines and art books. 00:24:11.190 --> 00:24:13.440 align:middle line:84% And so that's kind of my background. 00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:22.500 align:middle line:84% The next one that I was doing was this zine here. 00:24:22.500 --> 00:24:27.210 align:middle line:90% New Drawings and Picture Poems. 00:24:27.210 --> 00:24:35.070 align:middle line:84% So one page is what I call these picture poems. 00:24:35.070 --> 00:24:40.530 align:middle line:84% And then one page is drawings, are drawings. 00:24:40.530 --> 00:24:51.200 align:middle line:84% And I have another example of what I call picture poems. 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:55.730 align:middle line:84% This was published this year for an art fair. 00:24:55.730 --> 00:24:57.670 align:middle line:90% Other places art fair. 00:24:57.670 --> 00:25:00.350 align:middle line:84% It's called Fellini, Bellini, and the Mime. 00:25:00.350 --> 00:25:04.120 align:middle line:90% 00:25:04.120 --> 00:25:09.130 align:middle line:84% And it's a risograph print done by Colpa Press in the Bay Area. 00:25:09.130 --> 00:25:10.090 align:middle line:90% And yeah. 00:25:10.090 --> 00:25:22.450 align:middle line:84% So I think of these poems more as a visual drawing, 00:25:22.450 --> 00:25:25.660 align:middle line:84% more of a drawing than a piece of text. 00:25:25.660 --> 00:25:30.100 align:middle line:84% You can kind of try to read the text. 00:25:30.100 --> 00:25:32.290 align:middle line:90% But it's very hard. 00:25:32.290 --> 00:25:35.050 align:middle line:84% And I kind of like that, where you kind of-- 00:25:35.050 --> 00:25:38.230 align:middle line:84% the words become almost like shapes. 00:25:38.230 --> 00:25:44.980 align:middle line:84% And the-- and sometimes it's kind of straightforward. 00:25:44.980 --> 00:25:46.100 align:middle line:90% Wi-Fi. 00:25:46.100 --> 00:25:46.600 align:middle line:90% Password. 00:25:46.600 --> 00:25:53.560 align:middle line:90% 00:25:53.560 --> 00:25:54.880 align:middle line:90% So yeah. 00:25:54.880 --> 00:25:55.600 align:middle line:90% That's what I do. 00:25:55.600 --> 00:25:59.920 align:middle line:84% I make picture poems usually with my zines. 00:25:59.920 --> 00:26:06.276 align:middle line:84% Some other zines, my friend Felicia made this one. 00:26:06.276 --> 00:26:12.070 align:middle line:84% It's like, documentation of a choreographed dance that she 00:26:12.070 --> 00:26:14.785 align:middle line:90% was doing along with text. 00:26:14.785 --> 00:26:19.255 align:middle line:90% 00:26:19.255 --> 00:26:27.510 align:middle line:84% A and an A. Dancer is making an A. 00:26:27.510 --> 00:26:33.120 align:middle line:84% And that I think kind of blurs the line between, what 00:26:33.120 --> 00:26:34.140 align:middle line:90% is an art book? 00:26:34.140 --> 00:26:37.830 align:middle line:90% And what is an art zine? 00:26:37.830 --> 00:26:42.000 align:middle line:84% And so I kind of wanted to kind of quick talk about that. 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:44.820 align:middle line:90% 00:26:44.820 --> 00:26:52.020 align:middle line:84% But our book is the artwork in itself, 00:26:52.020 --> 00:26:54.660 align:middle line:84% it's not a catalog or a monograph. 00:26:54.660 --> 00:26:58.600 align:middle line:90% They are projects for the page. 00:26:58.600 --> 00:27:01.800 align:middle line:84% So you can kind of try and figure out your own definition 00:27:01.800 --> 00:27:05.250 align:middle line:90% for an art zine slash book. 00:27:05.250 --> 00:27:09.570 align:middle line:84% But what I think of it is as it's made by an artist, 00:27:09.570 --> 00:27:11.740 align:middle line:84% the hand of the maker is evident, 00:27:11.740 --> 00:27:15.690 align:middle line:84% it's generally inexpensive, limited, 00:27:15.690 --> 00:27:18.780 align:middle line:84% but the editions are large, they are meant 00:27:18.780 --> 00:27:20.820 align:middle line:90% to be democratically available. 00:27:20.820 --> 00:27:23.530 align:middle line:90% 00:27:23.530 --> 00:27:29.641 align:middle line:84% So an artist book can be purely visual or purely linguistic. 00:27:29.641 --> 00:27:34.060 align:middle line:84% Well, with that said, let's bring in Arthur, my friend 00:27:34.060 --> 00:27:36.400 align:middle line:90% Arthur Weiss. 00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:40.030 align:middle line:84% We know each other through the undergrad. 00:27:40.030 --> 00:27:42.400 align:middle line:90% We went to Earlham College. 00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:46.690 align:middle line:84% Arthur and I have been friends for many years. 00:27:46.690 --> 00:27:48.220 align:middle line:84% We're both living in the Bay Area 00:27:48.220 --> 00:27:50.320 align:middle line:90% and now we both live in LA. 00:27:50.320 --> 00:27:51.520 align:middle line:90% And welcome, Arthur. 00:27:51.520 --> 00:27:55.020 align:middle line:90% 00:27:55.020 --> 00:27:56.693 align:middle line:90% Thank you so much for having me. 00:27:56.693 --> 00:27:57.360 align:middle line:90% I appreciate it. 00:27:57.360 --> 00:27:57.930 align:middle line:90% Hi Micah. 00:27:57.930 --> 00:28:00.070 align:middle line:90% Hi, everyone. 00:28:00.070 --> 00:28:04.080 align:middle line:84% So going on what everyone's been saying, 00:28:04.080 --> 00:28:07.290 align:middle line:84% my experience with zines has really 00:28:07.290 --> 00:28:12.000 align:middle line:84% kind of transcended from punk rock culture 00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:14.370 align:middle line:90% into art publishing. 00:28:14.370 --> 00:28:19.770 align:middle line:84% And I first got into zines in 1996. 00:28:19.770 --> 00:28:21.780 align:middle line:84% I got a copy of Maximum Rock and Roll 00:28:21.780 --> 00:28:27.480 align:middle line:84% and that changed the trajectory of my life. 00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:33.630 align:middle line:84% It allowed me to be in the underground. 00:28:33.630 --> 00:28:37.050 align:middle line:84% And I made zines all throughout my youth 00:28:37.050 --> 00:28:39.120 align:middle line:90% and when I was in college. 00:28:39.120 --> 00:28:42.900 align:middle line:84% And I haven't made that much work 00:28:42.900 --> 00:28:44.580 align:middle line:90% in zines in the last few years. 00:28:44.580 --> 00:28:48.210 align:middle line:84% But I worked in fine press publishing and art publishing, 00:28:48.210 --> 00:28:52.680 align:middle line:84% I worked for SFMOMA, and I worked for the San Francisco 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:53.670 align:middle line:90% Center for the Book. 00:28:53.670 --> 00:28:57.210 align:middle line:84% And I worked for The Book Club of California 00:28:57.210 --> 00:29:00.210 align:middle line:84% doing fine press printing and the like. 00:29:00.210 --> 00:29:01.050 align:middle line:90% And 00:29:01.050 --> 00:29:02.940 align:middle line:84% And one of the really big things that I 00:29:02.940 --> 00:29:05.580 align:middle line:84% think about with art books and zine making 00:29:05.580 --> 00:29:11.670 align:middle line:84% is how individual it is, and how democratic it is, and how-- 00:29:11.670 --> 00:29:14.010 align:middle line:84% I mean well, I shouldn't say democratic, how just 00:29:14.010 --> 00:29:17.400 align:middle line:90% absolutely for yourself. 00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:18.960 align:middle line:90% You can do whatever you want. 00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:20.400 align:middle line:90% That's the whole point of it is. 00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:22.410 align:middle line:90% You're making a piece of art. 00:29:22.410 --> 00:29:27.180 align:middle line:84% And your art can just be words on a page, or it can be images, 00:29:27.180 --> 00:29:29.670 align:middle line:84% or it could be whatever you want because it's yours. 00:29:29.670 --> 00:29:32.070 align:middle line:90% All you need is a photocopier. 00:29:32.070 --> 00:29:34.230 align:middle line:90% And you don't even need that. 00:29:34.230 --> 00:29:36.030 align:middle line:90% Just get a piece of paper. 00:29:36.030 --> 00:29:39.150 align:middle line:90% And it's like, here. 00:29:39.150 --> 00:29:39.930 align:middle line:90% Here's an example. 00:29:39.930 --> 00:29:42.570 align:middle line:90% 00:29:42.570 --> 00:29:48.780 align:middle line:84% This is a set of four different zine art 00:29:48.780 --> 00:29:53.070 align:middle line:90% books done by Lena Gustaffsson. 00:29:53.070 --> 00:29:54.900 align:middle line:90% You know here, Micah. 00:29:54.900 --> 00:29:58.260 align:middle line:90% And Peter Calderwell. 00:29:58.260 --> 00:30:00.720 align:middle line:90% And they're all hand bound. 00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:04.980 align:middle line:84% And they're all printed and beautiful. 00:30:04.980 --> 00:30:09.810 align:middle line:84% And honestly, you can do what you want. 00:30:09.810 --> 00:30:11.190 align:middle line:90% That's the beauty of it. 00:30:11.190 --> 00:30:13.860 align:middle line:84% It's a piece of art that you can hold in your hand 00:30:13.860 --> 00:30:16.890 align:middle line:84% and feel the energy from that piece 00:30:16.890 --> 00:30:20.340 align:middle line:90% be able to be absorbed into you. 00:30:20.340 --> 00:30:21.760 align:middle line:90% And that's what draws me to it. 00:30:21.760 --> 00:30:29.055 align:middle line:84% And it really takes away from just the snobbery 00:30:29.055 --> 00:30:32.430 align:middle line:84% that can be omnipresent in the art world, where it's 00:30:32.430 --> 00:30:36.265 align:middle line:84% like certain people are really [INAUDIBLE] galleries are 00:30:36.265 --> 00:30:37.140 align:middle line:90% saying like, oh yeah. 00:30:37.140 --> 00:30:39.900 align:middle line:84% Well, this is who we're celebrating. 00:30:39.900 --> 00:30:41.040 align:middle line:90% But you know what? 00:30:41.040 --> 00:30:42.300 align:middle line:90% I'm going to make my own work. 00:30:42.300 --> 00:30:43.470 align:middle line:90% And that's DIY. 00:30:43.470 --> 00:30:44.640 align:middle line:90% And that's punk rock. 00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:46.410 align:middle line:90% And that's what's beautiful. 00:30:46.410 --> 00:30:48.750 align:middle line:90% And I mean, I think like-- 00:30:48.750 --> 00:30:51.160 align:middle line:90% I mean I have copies. 00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:52.440 align:middle line:90% Here's a great example. 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:54.570 align:middle line:90% This is Diseased Pariah Press. 00:30:54.570 --> 00:30:58.290 align:middle line:84% This was done in San Francisco in the late 1980s 00:30:58.290 --> 00:31:01.740 align:middle line:84% and early 1990s of people who were dying of AIDS. 00:31:01.740 --> 00:31:05.820 align:middle line:84% Everyone who made this zine was dying at that point. 00:31:05.820 --> 00:31:10.430 align:middle line:84% And they made it funny, and it's artistic. 00:31:10.430 --> 00:31:12.660 align:middle line:90% They recorded albums. 00:31:12.660 --> 00:31:15.960 align:middle line:84% And they did whatever they wanted to do. 00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:17.880 align:middle line:90% And this is a piece of art. 00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:21.280 align:middle line:84% I mean, it's absolutely phenomenal. 00:31:21.280 --> 00:31:22.950 align:middle line:90% And then you get-- 00:31:22.950 --> 00:31:23.520 align:middle line:90% let's see. 00:31:23.520 --> 00:31:26.360 align:middle line:90% You got-- I got so much stuff. 00:31:26.360 --> 00:31:26.860 align:middle line:90% Like here. 00:31:26.860 --> 00:31:29.400 align:middle line:90% This is before silicon. 00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:33.456 align:middle line:90% This is during Silicon Valley. 00:31:33.456 --> 00:31:35.010 align:middle line:90% You get to have memory. 00:31:35.010 --> 00:31:39.720 align:middle line:84% You get to create your own set of memories for other people. 00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:43.290 align:middle line:84% You get to see what exists in other people's heads. 00:31:43.290 --> 00:31:44.670 align:middle line:90% And that's so beautiful. 00:31:44.670 --> 00:31:49.760 align:middle line:84% And Micah, you got any questions? 00:31:49.760 --> 00:31:51.510 align:middle line:90% Anything? 00:31:51.510 --> 00:31:52.140 align:middle line:90% No. 00:31:52.140 --> 00:31:55.365 align:middle line:90% No, that's great. 00:31:55.365 --> 00:31:56.490 align:middle line:90% I mean, yeah. 00:31:56.490 --> 00:32:00.900 align:middle line:84% I'm glad you showed those because those are really 00:32:00.900 --> 00:32:07.390 align:middle line:84% good examples of both zines and art books. 00:32:07.390 --> 00:32:09.390 align:middle line:84% [INAUDIBLE] your background is in both of those. 00:32:09.390 --> 00:32:13.950 align:middle line:90% 00:32:13.950 --> 00:32:15.180 align:middle line:90% Yeah, like Arthur was just-- 00:32:15.180 --> 00:32:17.850 align:middle line:90% I'll piggyback on that. 00:32:17.850 --> 00:32:19.900 align:middle line:90% That's, I think, the, yeah. 00:32:19.900 --> 00:32:25.140 align:middle line:84% The genius of the zine is that it's the thing that's 00:32:25.140 --> 00:32:26.170 align:middle line:90% it's in your hands. 00:32:26.170 --> 00:32:27.210 align:middle line:90% You've made it. 00:32:27.210 --> 00:32:32.370 align:middle line:84% And then you can have it just be one, one and done, 00:32:32.370 --> 00:32:35.930 align:middle line:84% or it can be a huge distribution. 00:32:35.930 --> 00:32:38.790 align:middle line:84% It can be seen by so many people. 00:32:38.790 --> 00:32:42.270 align:middle line:84% And you can use any kind of materials you want. 00:32:42.270 --> 00:32:47.175 align:middle line:84% I like the binding that you showed, that stitch binding. 00:32:47.175 --> 00:32:49.680 align:middle line:90% 00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:54.210 align:middle line:84% That's a great example of just multiple ways 00:32:54.210 --> 00:32:56.820 align:middle line:90% that one can bind a book. 00:32:56.820 --> 00:32:59.850 align:middle line:84% You can use staples, you can use thread. 00:32:59.850 --> 00:33:02.127 align:middle line:90% You don't have to use anything. 00:33:02.127 --> 00:33:02.627 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:33:02.627 --> 00:33:05.310 align:middle line:90% 00:33:05.310 --> 00:33:07.320 align:middle line:90% It's what you want. 00:33:07.320 --> 00:33:09.840 align:middle line:84% This is what, Shitty Poems That I Wrote When I Was-- 00:33:09.840 --> 00:33:14.580 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] Aged 16 to 18. 00:33:14.580 --> 00:33:15.870 align:middle line:90% People put out their memories. 00:33:15.870 --> 00:33:17.520 align:middle line:90% And people's memories are art. 00:33:17.520 --> 00:33:19.350 align:middle line:90% And it begs the question. 00:33:19.350 --> 00:33:22.080 align:middle line:84% It's like, who gets to say what art is? 00:33:22.080 --> 00:33:23.040 align:middle line:90% And who doesn't? 00:33:23.040 --> 00:33:26.310 align:middle line:84% What we hold, what we see, how we see it. 00:33:26.310 --> 00:33:28.360 align:middle line:90% So-- 00:33:28.360 --> 00:33:29.170 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:33:29.170 --> 00:33:30.550 align:middle line:90% Thanks, Arthur. 00:33:30.550 --> 00:33:32.870 align:middle line:90% You're welcome. 00:33:32.870 --> 00:33:40.820 align:middle line:84% So these are books by the artist Dieter Roth. 00:33:40.820 --> 00:33:44.450 align:middle line:84% He was a Swiss artist but primarily lived 00:33:44.450 --> 00:33:46.791 align:middle line:84% in Iceland, Germany, and America. 00:33:46.791 --> 00:33:52.250 align:middle line:90% 00:33:52.250 --> 00:33:58.580 align:middle line:90% He's notorious for food pieces. 00:33:58.580 --> 00:34:02.480 align:middle line:84% He would make these zines out of anything. 00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:07.760 align:middle line:84% And he kind of became known for these food 00:34:07.760 --> 00:34:12.120 align:middle line:84% pieces involved pressing or squashing, his terms of choice, 00:34:12.120 --> 00:34:15.679 align:middle line:84% such ingredients as chocolate, lard, sausage, and fruits, 00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:19.190 align:middle line:84% and vegetables into his books and additions 00:34:19.190 --> 00:34:23.630 align:middle line:84% to great works that would putrefy and disintegrate. 00:34:23.630 --> 00:34:29.480 align:middle line:84% So it was such a cool kind of anticapitalistic way 00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:31.610 align:middle line:90% to think about art. 00:34:31.610 --> 00:34:32.110 align:middle line:90% Right? 00:34:32.110 --> 00:34:34.940 align:middle line:90% 00:34:34.940 --> 00:34:36.800 align:middle line:90% And he would sign his name. 00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:39.679 align:middle line:90% 00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:42.920 align:middle line:84% He would sign his name Roth because he understood 00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:46.639 align:middle line:84% the pronunciation was kind of a funny thing in terms 00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:51.244 align:middle line:84% of these food zines, these food books. 00:34:51.244 --> 00:34:54.139 align:middle line:84% I Dieter Roth as an artist and especially his books. 00:34:54.139 --> 00:34:57.180 align:middle line:84% They're very just like, I made it. 00:34:57.180 --> 00:34:59.010 align:middle line:90% I don't care if you like it. 00:34:59.010 --> 00:35:03.433 align:middle line:84% And he made hundreds, probably maybe 1,000, he made so many. 00:35:03.433 --> 00:35:04.850 align:middle line:84% Yeah, I just want to briefly touch 00:35:04.850 --> 00:35:11.810 align:middle line:84% on just kind of these briefcase pieces or these briefcase books 00:35:11.810 --> 00:35:12.960 align:middle line:90% that he made. 00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:16.918 align:middle line:84% So everyone talked about, this is a quote from the gallery. 00:35:16.918 --> 00:35:17.960 align:middle line:90% Everyone talked about it. 00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:19.850 align:middle line:84% It was probably one of the more talked 00:35:19.850 --> 00:35:20.960 align:middle line:90% about exhibitions in town. 00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:24.180 align:middle line:90% 00:35:24.180 --> 00:35:27.060 align:middle line:90% This was-- sorry. 00:35:27.060 --> 00:35:34.030 align:middle line:90% 00:35:34.030 --> 00:35:36.610 align:middle line:84% His first-- this is such a good story. 00:35:36.610 --> 00:35:42.370 align:middle line:84% His first US gallery show was in 1970 00:35:42.370 --> 00:35:47.940 align:middle line:84% at the Eugena Butler Gallery on La Cienega here in Los Angeles. 00:35:47.940 --> 00:35:49.570 align:middle line:90% This is his first-- 00:35:49.570 --> 00:35:51.620 align:middle line:90% he was widely celebrated. 00:35:51.620 --> 00:35:55.630 align:middle line:84% Huge artist in Europe, but never shown in America. 00:35:55.630 --> 00:35:59.050 align:middle line:84% He installed 37 suitcases full of cheese 00:35:59.050 --> 00:36:02.658 align:middle line:84% and left them to rot in the summer of 1970. 00:36:02.658 --> 00:36:03.700 align:middle line:90% Everyone talked about it. 00:36:03.700 --> 00:36:05.283 align:middle line:84% It was probably one of the more talked 00:36:05.283 --> 00:36:07.720 align:middle line:90% about exhibitions in town. 00:36:07.720 --> 00:36:13.090 align:middle line:84% People were of course outraged and intrigued by it. 00:36:13.090 --> 00:36:14.680 align:middle line:90% It was very powerful. 00:36:14.680 --> 00:36:18.400 align:middle line:84% You walked along this alley into the gallery. 00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:20.110 align:middle line:84% You could smell it from La Cienega 00:36:20.110 --> 00:36:24.890 align:middle line:84% and it was a good 100 yards from the gallery. 00:36:24.890 --> 00:36:28.900 align:middle line:84% So these were considered art pieces or art books to him. 00:36:28.900 --> 00:36:30.385 align:middle line:84% And this was his very first-- this 00:36:30.385 --> 00:36:34.170 align:middle line:90% is his splash into America. 00:36:34.170 --> 00:36:39.630 align:middle line:84% We can't talk about Dieter Roth without talking 00:36:39.630 --> 00:36:41.820 align:middle line:90% about Ed Ruscha. 00:36:41.820 --> 00:36:43.920 align:middle line:90% This is a great-- 00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.840 align:middle line:84% Ed Ruscha is a living artist here in Los Angeles. 00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:51.810 align:middle line:84% So Ed Ruscha is known for his paintings but also his books. 00:36:51.810 --> 00:36:54.870 align:middle line:84% And this is kind of an example of one of his books 00:36:54.870 --> 00:36:58.290 align:middle line:84% where he documented the Sunset Strip and the gas stations 00:36:58.290 --> 00:36:59.680 align:middle line:90% on there. 00:36:59.680 --> 00:37:02.970 align:middle line:84% One of the most iconic maybe art books 00:37:02.970 --> 00:37:06.120 align:middle line:90% published by an American artist. 00:37:06.120 --> 00:37:08.070 align:middle line:90% It's incredible. 00:37:08.070 --> 00:37:12.360 align:middle line:84% I think [INAUDIBLE] has the print. 00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:15.910 align:middle line:84% Martin Kippenberger, one of my favorite artists. 00:37:15.910 --> 00:37:18.240 align:middle line:90% This is called Psychobuildings. 00:37:18.240 --> 00:37:21.390 align:middle line:84% And one thing to remember is when 00:37:21.390 --> 00:37:28.590 align:middle line:84% you're at a college, or university, an art school, 00:37:28.590 --> 00:37:34.090 align:middle line:84% oftentimes the library will have original copies of these art 00:37:34.090 --> 00:37:34.590 align:middle line:90% books. 00:37:34.590 --> 00:37:37.320 align:middle line:84% And they won't tell you that they're there. 00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:38.820 align:middle line:90% But you can ask. 00:37:38.820 --> 00:37:41.700 align:middle line:84% And sometimes they will let you put on gloves 00:37:41.700 --> 00:37:46.770 align:middle line:84% and actually hold and handle these original editions. 00:37:46.770 --> 00:37:50.730 align:middle line:84% So I've actually flipped through one of these Psychobuilding 00:37:50.730 --> 00:37:51.300 align:middle line:90% books. 00:37:51.300 --> 00:37:53.520 align:middle line:90% And yeah. 00:37:53.520 --> 00:37:55.380 align:middle line:90% There is no text. 00:37:55.380 --> 00:38:02.160 align:middle line:84% It's just an inventory of architectural detail odd things 00:38:02.160 --> 00:38:07.530 align:middle line:84% juxtaposed with sculptures and portraits of the artist. 00:38:07.530 --> 00:38:12.960 align:middle line:84% Kind a deep cut for art book people and art zine people. 00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:16.530 align:middle line:84% Ulysses Carrion, this one is called The Drum. 00:38:16.530 --> 00:38:19.300 align:middle line:90% 00:38:19.300 --> 00:38:23.170 align:middle line:84% Ulysses Carrion was a Mexican conceptual artist 00:38:23.170 --> 00:38:26.440 align:middle line:84% but he kind of relocated to Amsterdam 00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:30.460 align:middle line:90% and lived there until he died. 00:38:30.460 --> 00:38:36.640 align:middle line:84% The Drum was one of Ulysses' early linguistic exercises 00:38:36.640 --> 00:38:38.640 align:middle line:90% in English. 00:38:38.640 --> 00:38:41.350 align:middle line:84% The artist fragments the names of musical instruments 00:38:41.350 --> 00:38:44.140 align:middle line:90% to express a sound. 00:38:44.140 --> 00:38:50.360 align:middle line:84% So he would just write a sound on the page 00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:54.962 align:middle line:84% and then the reader was supposed to kind of reenact that sound, 00:38:54.962 --> 00:38:59.780 align:middle line:84% or say aloud, or make that sound that was on that page, 00:38:59.780 --> 00:39:03.060 align:middle line:84% or that word that's on that page. 00:39:03.060 --> 00:39:05.840 align:middle line:84% So the trumpet, you were going to make the sound of a trumpet. 00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:11.180 align:middle line:84% Or what does the sound of a pet pet do? 00:39:11.180 --> 00:39:13.790 align:middle line:90% Barbara Kruger. 00:39:13.790 --> 00:39:15.920 align:middle line:90% Part of the pictures generation. 00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:18.170 align:middle line:84% Originally this is a poster turned 00:39:18.170 --> 00:39:21.710 align:middle line:84% into a photographic silkscreen print. 00:39:21.710 --> 00:39:23.660 align:middle line:90% Used a lot of text in her work. 00:39:23.660 --> 00:39:24.860 align:middle line:90% Very subversive. 00:39:24.860 --> 00:39:29.350 align:middle line:84% Talked about themes of power, consumerism, and sexuality. 00:39:29.350 --> 00:39:32.050 align:middle line:84% Jenny Holzer, an artist also part 00:39:32.050 --> 00:39:33.490 align:middle line:90% of the picture's generation. 00:39:33.490 --> 00:39:36.030 align:middle line:84% Very similar, used a lot of text, 00:39:36.030 --> 00:39:39.202 align:middle line:84% to talk about power and things like that. 00:39:39.202 --> 00:39:40.660 align:middle line:84% This is kind of randomly thrown in. 00:39:40.660 --> 00:39:45.300 align:middle line:84% This is another example of a Dieter Roth book. 00:39:45.300 --> 00:39:48.420 align:middle line:84% Abuse of Power Comes As No Surprise, of a collection 00:39:48.420 --> 00:39:52.250 align:middle line:90% of Jenny Holzer's text pieces. 00:39:52.250 --> 00:39:57.170 align:middle line:84% Zines are also kind of becoming very mainstream. 00:39:57.170 --> 00:40:02.600 align:middle line:84% This is a zine published by Kanye West for the Yeezy 00:40:02.600 --> 00:40:05.090 align:middle line:90% collection. 00:40:05.090 --> 00:40:07.460 align:middle line:90% So if Kanye does it, it's cool. 00:40:07.460 --> 00:40:10.130 align:middle line:90% 00:40:10.130 --> 00:40:11.520 align:middle line:90% It's reached that level. 00:40:11.520 --> 00:40:14.420 align:middle line:84% And just really quick, shout out to some publishers 00:40:14.420 --> 00:40:18.320 align:middle line:84% in the Bay Area where I kind of where I got really into zines. 00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:25.310 align:middle line:84% These are Jeffrey and Gabe who are from Unity Press. 00:40:25.310 --> 00:40:30.680 align:middle line:84% They put out a bunch of really amazing zines and skateboards 00:40:30.680 --> 00:40:34.790 align:middle line:84% really celebrating queer culture. 00:40:34.790 --> 00:40:41.480 align:middle line:84% They primarily only publish kind of POC artists and queer 00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:42.110 align:middle line:90% artists. 00:40:42.110 --> 00:40:44.060 align:middle line:90% Tiny Splendor. 00:40:44.060 --> 00:40:49.960 align:middle line:84% My friends Max and Sonna do this. 00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:54.410 align:middle line:84% They're also an amazing press in the Bay. 00:40:54.410 --> 00:40:57.410 align:middle line:84% I don't know if we have time for this. 00:40:57.410 --> 00:41:03.050 align:middle line:84% But real quick I'm going to demonstrate because this 00:41:03.050 --> 00:41:05.630 align:middle line:90% is part of the workshop. 00:41:05.630 --> 00:41:08.990 align:middle line:90% How to make your very own zine. 00:41:08.990 --> 00:41:10.790 align:middle line:90% A rad zine. 00:41:10.790 --> 00:41:12.780 align:middle line:84% So you'll have your piece of paper. 00:41:12.780 --> 00:41:14.180 align:middle line:90% OK? 00:41:14.180 --> 00:41:19.850 align:middle line:84% You're going to fold it lengthwise. 00:41:19.850 --> 00:41:27.170 align:middle line:90% 00:41:27.170 --> 00:41:29.370 align:middle line:90% Open it back up. 00:41:29.370 --> 00:41:32.250 align:middle line:84% We're going to fold it the other way. 00:41:32.250 --> 00:41:45.998 align:middle line:90% 00:41:45.998 --> 00:41:46.880 align:middle line:90% All right? 00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:56.900 align:middle line:90% 00:41:56.900 --> 00:41:58.010 align:middle line:90% Fold it the other way. 00:41:58.010 --> 00:42:03.860 align:middle line:90% 00:42:03.860 --> 00:42:04.570 align:middle line:90% All right. 00:42:04.570 --> 00:42:07.410 align:middle line:90% 00:42:07.410 --> 00:42:12.590 align:middle line:84% And you're going to fold it this side in half. 00:42:12.590 --> 00:42:20.682 align:middle line:90% 00:42:20.682 --> 00:42:25.030 align:middle line:84% Now this side in half until they kind of meet in the middle. 00:42:25.030 --> 00:42:30.200 align:middle line:90% 00:42:30.200 --> 00:42:33.000 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] crisp edges. 00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:34.250 align:middle line:90% And we're running out of time. 00:42:34.250 --> 00:42:36.110 align:middle line:90% I'm so sorry. 00:42:36.110 --> 00:42:36.920 align:middle line:90% All right. 00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:41.420 align:middle line:90% Fold it back again to this. 00:42:41.420 --> 00:42:46.730 align:middle line:84% And take your scissors and cut halfway 00:42:46.730 --> 00:42:48.860 align:middle line:90% to the middle right here. 00:42:48.860 --> 00:42:57.122 align:middle line:90% 00:42:57.122 --> 00:42:59.690 align:middle line:90% All right. 00:42:59.690 --> 00:43:01.610 align:middle line:90% Good. 00:43:01.610 --> 00:43:14.740 align:middle line:84% Now fold it back out again, hold it down, and then accordion 00:43:14.740 --> 00:43:16.210 align:middle line:90% style into each other. 00:43:16.210 --> 00:43:20.300 align:middle line:90% 00:43:20.300 --> 00:43:31.655 align:middle line:84% OK, and then you have your very own zine. 00:43:31.655 --> 00:43:38.680 align:middle line:90% 00:43:38.680 --> 00:43:45.840 align:middle line:84% And now you can start making your own zines. 00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:49.110 align:middle line:84% Well, clearly we need more time to have a zine party. 00:43:49.110 --> 00:43:51.360 align:middle line:84% Look at each other's bookshelves, 00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:54.750 align:middle line:84% discuss zine history and culture, 00:43:54.750 --> 00:43:57.270 align:middle line:90% and share great stories. 00:43:57.270 --> 00:43:59.160 align:middle line:84% Just a few little bits of housekeeping. 00:43:59.160 --> 00:44:02.680 align:middle line:84% Roman did put a link to a quick survey in the chat. 00:44:02.680 --> 00:44:04.650 align:middle line:84% So if y'all would take a minute to do that, 00:44:04.650 --> 00:44:06.772 align:middle line:90% we'd greatly appreciate it. 00:44:06.772 --> 00:44:07.980 align:middle line:90% Thanks, everybody for coming. 00:44:07.980 --> 00:44:09.600 align:middle line:90% Stay safe and be well. 00:44:09.600 --> 00:44:12.060 align:middle line:90% Thank you, everyone. 00:44:12.060 --> 00:44:14.210 align:middle line:90% [MUSIC PLAYING] 00:44:14.210 --> 00:44:23.000 align:middle line:90%